Storyteller Tim Hall, Scott, and Nathan Queen in front of the Coffee Shop.
Colin Thrienen shoots overhead footage from a ledge above where the Red Bird petroglyph boulder fell from the wall and rolled onto the highway.
After filming on the final day in Kentucky I was taken to the cave where Chief Red Bird was buried.
The Committee Films crew lights the Judaculla Rock for night time filming.
Two of our guests in this episode, Lisa Dawn Frady, and Tim Hall, are veterans who served with distinction in our Nation’s military. Since we weren’t able to acknowledge and thank them for their service during the broadcast, I’d like to do it here. Thanks to both of you, and to all of our veterans along with those currently enlisted who serve in our military. Your sacrifice is greatly appreciated and it’s people like you that allow people like me the freedom to run around playing “Indiana Scott.”Both the Red Bird Petroglyph and the Judaculla Rock are sites I’ve known about for several years and was excited to do an episode on. Leslie Kalen showed me the Judaculla Rock the first time and told me that her people’s ancestors, the ancient Cherokee, had carved the symbols covering the stone over a thousand years ago. My first impression was that it was probably the most amazing Star Map petroglyph I have ever seen. The one exception is the Peterborough Petroglyphs site in Ontario, Canada. I had the pleasure of visiting this site this past summer and was educated about its history by an Ojibwe, Mide’win medicine man. Geologically, the blue soapstone Judaculla Rock and the coarse-grained, high white marble in Peterborough are highly unusual rock types. It seems obvious to me that the ancient Native people who carved these amazing glyphs understood that. Both sites are considered very sacred as well they should be. These sites were used to teach those deemed worthy knowledge about the heavens and the ancient stories.
The petroglyphs on the Red Bird boulder are different and seem to be more like an important sign post with mostly Native messages dating back to the distant past. There could also be Old World script there as well, but I think the most of the symbols on the Red Bird petroglyph were carved by the Cherokee.
Ironically, just as we were about to begin filming the episode, one of the people we contacted to be a guest, Pisgah National Forest Archaeologist Scott Ashcraft, declined to appear on the show and then tried to get our access to film the Judaculla Stone denied. In what was clearly an attempt to control the public dissemination of information about what the Judaculla Stone is, Mr. Ashcroft called everyone he could, including the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, to try and derail our filming. Fortunately, his attempts at sabotage were unsuccessful, but this is yet another example, that hit very close to home, of an academic being territorial to the point of taking disparate action that only served to undermine his own credibility.I wonder what he thought of the episode? I’d love to hear from you Scott.