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Janet and Anita St. Clair flash the "M" sign along with a model of lady Liberty at St. Martin's des Champ, in Paris, France. |
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Have you ever looked closely at the tablet Lady Liberty holds in her left hand? |
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Inside the Knights Templar castle overlooking the city of Tomar, Portugal, is a church with an ornately decorated altar that is a near exact architectural replica of the Newport Tower. The eight-columned, two story octagonal tower with rounded arches is the most sacred part of the church and is consistent with the claims of many researchers the Newport Tower was built by circa 1400 era Knights Templar as an observatory and a church. |
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Scott poses with the Hooked X Janet found while we were shooting a scene outside the Templar Church of Santa Maria de Olival in Tomar, Portugal. The Roman number Hooked X, was carved into the lower left corner of an inscription on a column near the entrance of the church next to the tomb of the First Grand Master of the Portuguese Templars who founded Tomar, Gualdim Pais. |
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After all the microscopic analysis and high resolution imaging at the Westford Knight/Sword Hooked X, sometimes the best way to see something is with an IPhone flashlight. |
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Standing atop the 8 steps leading into Santa Maria de Olival in Tomar, Portugal, one is struck by the powerful symbolism in this Templar Church where 22 Grand Masters are interred. The sacred number 8 appears multiple times (columns, windows, steps, etc.) along with the five-pointed star created during the 8-year cycle of Venus, which an important symbol consistent with their goddess veneration (Hooked X) ideology. |
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At the Templar Church of Santa Maria de Olival in Tomar, Portugal, the statue in the altar is of Mary Magdalene holding a child. Her hair is golden auburn and she wears her symbolic colors of green and red/orange. |
Well, season 3 is now over and I want to personally thank everyone who supported u watching our show. I hope you've learned some new things and were entertained in the process. We're hoping for another season as there is so much more to explore and share with all of you; we'll see what happens!
Before I launch into comments about the part 2 of Tracking the Templars, I'd like to share comments posted on Facebook last week that were forwarded to me by a relative of the person who carved the fake rune stone seen in part 1. It was the guy on the right without the hat who actually thought I was the one who looked like the fool in the episode. Obviously, I would disagree and will let you decide for yourself what this correspondence means:
Billy Carney did you see me on the History channel Saturday
(Name Removed)
(Name Removed)No Billy. What was the show , cause I have
unlimited history channel in the web.
Billy Carney it's on the History2's website, follow the link
for "America Unearthed" I'm in the green shirt. I'm in the first 20
minutes after that they move onto another subject...
Jean Carney Blakesley I just watched it. It is
nice to see that he gave you credit for finding it. He sure changed
his tune from the time that I e-mailed him before.
Billy Carney yes, he had enough on me to feed me to the
lions, the History channel people probably stepped in and told him he can't do
what he wants to do
Billy Carney I did carve that inscription
Billy Carney I didn't find it, I made it...
Jean Carney Blakesley No you didn't. Not that
one.
Billy Carney yeah, it was a hoax from the beginning
Jean Carney Blakesley Really. You sure had me
fooled.
Billy Carney Scott offered counsin Joe $1000 to appear on
camera and talk about my carvings
Jean Carney Blakesley Did they ever pay you anything for
appearing on TV?
Billy Carney not a thing, I went in the hole about a couple
hundred $'s running around getting things ready for them to come here
Jean Carney Blakesley I just sent the link to my brother
Jim.
Billy Carney cousin joe milked $300 out of them, that's his
yellow atv in the beginning
Billy Carney coool
Billy Carney you guys were so easy to fool
Jean Carney Blakesley The above picture doesn't look like
the other one. spacing is different
Billy Carney no, same one, look closer....
Billy Carney i'll try and find a later one
Jean Carney Blakesley I hadn't watched the whole show before
I made my comments. I have to say, you are one warped individual.
Billy Carney high strung people don't like it I know.....
Jean Carney Blakesley It was one thing to try to make a fool
of Scott, but to make a fool of your friends. Not good.
Billy Carney yeah,ok
Billy Carney that's why I don't let you see my posts
anymore, we're two different kinfs of people. Have fun being uptight
Billy Carney right up there with the Charles Manson murders
huh ?
Billy Carney when Joe and Josh found out last week the truth
we all had a good laugh....you,joannie, John, well a diffeent story.....
Jean Carney Blakesley I am not an uptight person, I am a
very loving, caring person who stood up for you. I didn't block you
or unfriend you even when you would go too far with some of you ribbing. You
have no boundaries. I feel that it is a sin to waste valuable time
on resources on childish behavior.
Billy Carney I begged you not to say anything to Scott and
stand up for me but you couldn't be stopped....
Jean Carney Blakesley It was because I cared about you and
thought that he was making a fool of you. I guess you don't know
what it is like to care for someone or someones feelings.
Billy Carney no boundaries, yeah right
Billy Carney to you it's like the OJ Simpson murders etc
Billy Carney it's a stone carving !
Billy Carney just enjoy your up tightness
Billy Carney form a support group
Billy Carney it's a stone carving !
Billy Carney one day stone carving, tomorrow murder....
Billy Carney lol
Billy Carney why have I only had these kinds of disscussions
in the past year with you,Joannie and John......
Billy Carney there's your nucleus of a support group...
Billy Carney it's a stone carving......
Billy Carney sorry I brought this up Stacy, left my guard
down, didn't realize Miss Uptight would see it...
What strikes me is how Billy is totally oblivious to the seriousness of his actions. Pathetic really; but at least know the answer definitively even though I suspected him all along.
Moving on now; what is truly amazing is finding not one, but two Hooked X symbols connected with the Knights Templar. The stand alone Roman number 10 Hooked X in Santa Maria de Olival is unquestionably Templar and the extensively weathered Hooked X proves the Westford Knight/Sword is indeed Templar (likely carved for a fallen knight) in origin as most have always suspected. What this new evidence does is reinforce our conclusions about the rune stones with the Hooked X found in North America. These are important finds that need to be taken seriously by scholars. I hold out no hope they will as to touch this research completely changes to the paradigm of known world history profoundly. The real question is: does anyone have the courage to tip their toes into these amazing waters? Time will tell...
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Hello Scott,
ReplyDeleteYou completely missed a Hooked X. The Skull and Crossbones had a sword going though it, in the depiction below the "Jesus" representation. I've much more to say but, my mind's in high gear.
Best regards,
Anthony
Anthony,
DeleteI didn't miss the sword; the Hooked X did cross (no pun intended) my mind but it was a stretch in the context of the show. We had an undeniable one in the Templar Church.
Hello Scott,
ReplyDeleteWith regards to the skull and cross bones symbolism on the Jolly Roger, I've seen several examples where the nasal cavity is represented as an equilateral triangle. This suggests to me, each orbital socket should be taken as the Sun on a Solstice. Kind of like saying, "I can out navigate you". I hope you can see where I'm going with this. My mind is flying off on side tangents, and I'm trying to keep my message coherent.
Best regards,
Anthony
BTW- Do you see the Hooked X on the church, I was referring to?
Loving the Templar connection. One issue is probably a script error when you stated that "The Last Supper" shows Mary on Jesus's right and not "John the Baptist". That's obvious. Also know that October 30, 1895 was not a Friday, but, in fact, a Sunday. As a St.Claire and a 32d Degree Mason "Master of the Royal Secret", I am pulling for your clarification of the bloodline theory.
ReplyDeleteYep; I screwed up on JB in my voiceover. You are right. I have to watch the show again to see what Steve and I said, but you're probably right about Sunday too.
DeleteGlad to see you're paying such close attention.
Yep, October 13 1895 was indeed Sunday....just love the internet
DeleteHello Scott,
ReplyDeleteRegarding the eagle on top of the globe marked 1776, each talon is an "M" and both are brought together to form another "M". Pretty cool.
Best regards,
Anthony
That's a good one Anthony; didn't catch it!
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ReplyDeleteGreg,
DeleteSee: "The Warriors and Bankers" by, Alan Butler. That connection has already been established.
Respectfully,
Anthony
The Church put their own spin on the "M" sign of course. What it means is all about context and "plausible deniability." Remember, it was a matter of life and death to ensure your true beliefs were kept secret. If the Inquisitors of the Church even thought you were a heretic, you were dead.
DeleteStay tuned on the Switzerland stuff; there's a lot more to do.
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DeleteGreg,
DeleteKeep in mind it was the leadership of the Templars who were connected to Jesus by blood; only the inner circle knew the truth. All the knights venerated Jesus, only a few knew understood his humanity.
Like the Templar and Cistercian orders, most Freemasons don't realize the true meaning of the symbolism they are taught. It's an individual's journey to seek light (knowledge).
I have also questioned why women are excluded. The Craft is not perfect, but there are certain Masonic groups, like Co-Masonry, that does welcome women.
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DeleteGreg,
DeleteI believe the Venus Families have been involved since at least the First Century on through today.
I read all the threads lastnight and wow ,you have a serious troll problem. You are obviously a very patient individual and I commend you for answering most no matter what.
DeleteAs far as the Venus families, is there a reason you cannot say actual names. Found many references to venus families but no actual names.
In some threads you seem angry or and I mean no disrespect but it seems almost like obsession. Especially when talking about the immaculate conception and christs accension into heaven. Remember these stories are in other religions also,not just Christianity.
Also you said you can't believe anything in the bible but the gospels when christ is teaching isn't he only teaching in a loving way? And many of his teachings hold true to this day.
One more comment: If everyone in the world followed the ten commandments just think of how the world would be,we would be as close to world peace as we could be.
Greg,
DeleteYou are correct we have a Troll problem here, but as I said in an earlier post, I give them plenty of rope and see what they do with it. Currently, they are mounting an offensive on my KRS research with bogus claims and bogus research. I'm posting the ones that are worthy of responding to and deleting the ones intentionally designed to muddy the discussion.
I'm surprised you think I come across as angry or upset for that is hardly the case. I would say it's some of the posters who are getting upset; I'm doing fine. I simply don't believe in Immaculate conceptions or physical resurrection of human bodies; I've never seen evidence of that and until I do, I don't believe it. That's all.
I never said you can't believe anything in the Bible; I've simply said that much of the writings are allegorical stories about the interactions of the sun, moon, planets, stars, constellations, etc.
I do agree with you that if people followed the ten commandments the world would be a better place. Let's hope humanity moves in that direction.
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DeleteIf I lived near Scott, I not sure I could follow the Ten Commandments.
DeleteJust a little humor. Forgive me....
Kudos to JW for the big find. She's a keeper!
Anonymous,
DeleteYou'd get used to me...
She is a keeper!
I think you may have you misunderstood. That was actually a compliment to you. But clearly you are such a gentleman that it went over your head.
DeleteWill we ever see Janet on an episode? I appreciate your work and that you publicly give your wife credit. More power to the Wolter duo.
I was kidding too; now offense taken at all. Thank you for the kind words.
DeleteHi, Scott. Looking forward to season. While I am a skeptic when it comes to the bloodline, I keep an open mind. Your show has certainly made me more aware of my surroundings, and if I find something interesting, I'll let you know. Meanwhile, since I live in California, I am going to check out the Chinese wall outside of San Francisco next week, weather permitting. I have always been aware of the walls the Chinese railroad workers and miners built beginning at the Gold Rush and through the early 20th century, but never heard of anything as old as that wall. Happy Exploration!
ReplyDeleteGlenn Strickler
Victorville, Ca.
Glenn,
DeleteNothing wrong with being a skeptic as long as you keep your mind open as you go along. That sounds exactly like what you're doing.
Have fun out there; there's a lot to explore!
I have so many questions and ideas bottled up for years and now it’s great to finally be able to speak out, listen and learn.
DeleteThere are times I’m a sceptic but mostly I say “why not”….Yet I can’t grasp the Templars undergoing severe torture to protect the bloodline if there wasn’t one… Also that it’s STILL secret.
Mary Magdalene and Jesus could have had child/children Simcha Jacobovici http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/jesus-was-married-had-kids-claims-lost-gospel/article6591576.ece Beginning with the Templars to Christopher Columbus perhaps Queen Isabella… anyone…..someone must have documented in more recent times.
Do you suppose that the Templars who carved the Hooked X symbol on many rocks believed no one would know what it meant or maybe it was not a secret but a recording? Why did the translated writings on the Rune Stone have so many hooked X’s which had nothing to do with the story being related?
The churches were and are notorious for suppressing the truth, changing and deleting scriptures to suit the times and if there is a bloodline I’d think that any type of document or artifact indicating it’s so that the evidence would be in the Vatican basement….
The Church has much to contend with including that many Christian rituals are Pagan based…
The hand holding the tablet on the Statue of Liberty doesn’t look like an “M” could be but it looks more like a relaxed hand holding a tablet…to me. Other hands do indeed resemble the “M”.
CJ @ceejvana
Cant wait till next season! My best to you Scott for fighting to find the truth no matter what anybody says. By far my most favorite show on TV.
ReplyDeleteStacy,
DeleteWhat more can I say but, I will! And thank you.
You never did reply to my e-mails about the "Pregnant Hooked X" symbol.
ReplyDeleteBased on the image from when you were on the Coast to Coast AM radio show, at this link:
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/photo/view/hooked_x_two_two_images_side_by_side/40375
The caption under the image reads:
The left Hooked X character is found on the Kensington Rune Stone. The right one was found used as an apparent mason's mark inside Rosslyn Chapel in Scotland. ***The meaning of the diamond in the lower part of the X is unclear.*** Mason marks expert, Robert Cooper, suggested the character found at Rosslyn could be an addition to a stonemason family's mark by a son or grandson. (Wolter, 2002; Photo by Scott F. Wolter with permission of the Rosslyn Chapel Trust, 2008)
My theory is that the Hooked X symbols aren't about Jesus' wife Mary (Magdelene?) and her child, it's about Jesus and Mary, she being the large X and Jesus (bloodline) designated by the hook.
I think the "diamond" Hooked X is a pregnant Mary (and Jesus bloodline).
Bill,
DeleteDon't recall seeing your message before. The Hooked X at Rosslyn could symbolize what you suggest, or it could be what I believe it represents. We're essentially saying the same thing. I think the "V" added below the intersection of the "X" is simply an "AVM" for Mary Magdalene.
The cool thing about symbols is they mean different things to different people. Only the person who carved it can say what the original symbolic message was meant to be.
Couldn't help but notice how close AVM is to AUM ( OM, the Hindu Mantra and symbol).
DeleteScott,
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to say as someone who has a BA in History, I love the work that you're doing. I'm glad that someone trained in the scientific method is at work documenting forgotten and unrecorded events. As much as I love history and appreciate historians, the truth is we are not trained in the scientific method and honestly i think this is why 'outsiders' such as yourself are viewed with increased skepticism. Anyway, I eagerly await the next season.
Kles,
DeleteThat was a very insightful comment and I appreciate your candor. There is a lot of resistance from academics to some of the work I do as you know, but I would prefer to work with people like yourself. I don't want to argue and fight as it is unproductive. The public has put their trust in both academia and professionals like me and it is our job to act responsibly.
It takes more people with attitudes like yours to make the real progress we all want.
Good for you Kles.
I think the comment "we are not trained...." is very accurate. Historians are not "scientists". Historians are not "trained" to look at history from the "catastrophic" point of view. The biggest events for a historian is a "bigger" invading army. Not some meteor traveling at 40K/hour (end of the Bronze Age). They really need to look elsewhere for "history". Academia needs to look in other sections of the library and they, I think, are very afraid of people such as Scott, his associates and sources who are not afraid or owe nothing to some "idea" or "perfect" historical "track".
DeleteThe dam is breaking..... and the scientific information is becoming undeniable. You still see programs on TV that show the "paradigm" but I see so many holes in it that I'm wondering why they waste their time and money.
A good test of this would be the copper testing of all the ship rams they have found in the Med. So far, the "academics" have REFUSED to even acknowledge "copper" in the Michigan panhandle. Their days are really numbered. I know longer believe them and I do not support their books or research.
,,,,archaeologists have found 11 bronze rams .....
http://www.ourprg.com/?p=15457
http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places/ten-incredible-underwater-discoveries-have-captured-our-imagination-001522
Scott's "hooked X" in Portugal and one on the "Westford Knight" are as the historians are proud to say ------ "damning". There really is no further reason to question the veracity of the "dotted R" and the "hooked X". The historians all said it didn't exist. This should really be embarrassing. And I might add --- the construction of Washington, D.C. (oh my).
As the cowboys in Colorado still say today ---- "time for the Smithsonian to man-up".
In football we say the same thing...
DeleteScott,
ReplyDeleteJust watched Part 2 tonight. When you were talking about Sub-rosa, I thought "I recognize that symbol but I'm not Catholic..." I'll get to that in a moment. However it was rose that made me think, what if there was a connection to the Reformation, which was probably one of the biggest moments in the history of the Church. Do you think it's possible that we could find the M made by the "face" of the Reformation? Well, behold.
Martin Luther when he was an Augustinian monk: http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/files/2014/02/Luther_as_an_Augustinian_Monk.jpg
Martin Luther at the Diet of Worms: http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2011/top10_trials/martin_luther.jpg
With the later picture, please notice that the M is made with his LEFT hand. Some believe that the left is symbolic of the feminine. What is more feminine that Mary Magdalene?
Now, let's get back to the rose. The symbol used by Lutheran churches worldwide, regardless of synod or orthodoxy is that of the rose: http://www.pilgrimlutheran-westbend.org/home/180014810/180014810/images/lrose_stainedglass300.jpg
It was that rose that really got me thinking. Was there more to the Reformation than what I learned in Confirmation classes all those years ago? Another reason why the time of the Reformation was bloody, in that they were fighting for more than just religious differences?
Tess
Tess,
DeleteI have nothing else to add except "nicely done!"
Scott,
DeleteI'd also be interested to see (if possible) the original print of the 95 Theses. Luther posted them in Latin, and I think #93 could hold some possibilities:
"Hail, hail to all those prophets who say to Christ's people, "The cross, the cross," where there is no cross."
There would be a few X's in that one.
Tess
If you are interested we have a statue of liberty here in Richmond Va over looking the James River.
ReplyDeleteghostdog72@gmail.com
I found it interesting how, on the statue claimed to be Mary Magdalene and son, the child's forearm is at 45 degree angle to upper arm and gold sash on Mary as on a crocked X. Coincidence?
ReplyDeleteNone of this is a coincidence Sue.
DeleteIt was very exciting to see two more hooked "X"s be discovered. How long did you have to hold onto that information and wait for the show to air before you could bask in that success? Congratulations! The evidence keeps building!
DeleteAlso, when I was looking at that statue, being questioned as Mary Magdalene and a son, it made sense it was not Jesus and his mother, as why would a baby Jesus be holding a cross in his hands? Now, Jesus's son or daughter would probably do so because it didn't take long for the cross to become a holy symbol of the christian movement.
Off topic... what kind of backpack is that you lug around?
TD Bauer
DeleteHey Scott,
This is a bit off subject except for "coincidence" something that I find hard not to believe.
I've been watching your repeats one is the Loch Nell: ancients indeed have gruesome sacrificial rituals...where did these derive from?
Did you know that the Ohio Serpent Mound is advertised on U-Haul trucks as one of the “must see” ?
Sometimes being open-minded has drawbacks, for me, when I go "off the wall thinking" I get the “you’re nuts” look so it’s great that I finally decided to get on Twitter to be able to find people with the same interests including MUFON> it’s all connected. Biblical Ancient History has some interesting relations to E.T… besides do we really know who the ancients were…really?
There are too many "coincidences" and connections to the ancients' rituals, beliefs, buildings, writings etc..
So much resembles each other both here in the US and other continents and with no modern communication technology. Many cultures, ancient to today direct everything to planets, stars and moon alignments which, for me aren’t coincidental. Other than telecommunications what could there have been; Telepathy, flight? Hard not to believe.
I once had a neurologist tell me there is no such thing as a coincidence…I beg to differ.
Yesterdays myths/science fiction can be tomorrows facts. Thanks to you for your enthusiasm to bring difficult yet interesting challenges to light undergoing scrutiny at times.
What makes America Unearthed is you…you respond to your viewers.
CJ @ceejvana
CJ @ceejvana
Many have the blood but few have the knowledge.
ReplyDeleteI am fairly certain that statue of liberty statue was moved there in 2012. You should be able to ask those who moved it why that location was chosen...
ReplyDeleteAaron,
DeleteThe Lady Liberty statue outside of St. Martin des Champ is replica of the original life-sized model that is on display inside the church which is now a museum of European science history.
Scott,
DeleteThere's another Statue of Liberty in the U.S. and I believe she's important. If I remember correctly, She resides in Philadelphia on the side of a building. Was featured on a program when I was a child...A very long time ago. I've tried internet searches for her, and always come up empty, while sifting through irrelevant search results.
Best regards,
Anthony
Good Morning, Scott
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, a couple of comments about the Facebook exchange you posted. Did you actually offer cousin Joe $1,000 to appear on camera? I’m not blaming you if you did, but there may be others that will. I don’t know if you intended to put that on the air or if you wanted to have some kind of insurance against Billy if he wanted to do something like start a deformation of character law suit for example. Anyone who watched the episode and has read this blog knows that you have never out right accused him, just that you suspected him of being involved. That entire segment just seemed off to me, and while I realize that if you are not used to being filmed you may seem uncomfortable on camera, those two seemed to be more uncomfortable than most. And when you did prove to them that it was a hoax, their denials just didn’t seem to sit right with me, the both seemed to know more about it than they were willing to state on camera.
Billy sounds like a real winner. After reading that exchange I doubt he is much interested in debunking your Jesus bloodline/Templar theory but rather he is a jokester who just wanted to have some fun and maybe achieve some notoriety in fooling you.
I don’t know how PO’ed you still are about this but if that rock was in a park or wilderness area and not on private lands Billy could be in a lot of trouble and potentially arrested for defacing public property. He should be more worried about that then it’s just a carving on a stone.
BTW, in case you don’t know, that link doesn’t work. I don’t know if it’s because you typed it wrong or if that page has now been taken down, maybe right after you posted the exchange.
Scott, any thoughts about using ground penetrating radar around the Westford Knight/Sword stone? If it is a burial memorial and human remains are discovered at the site, they could be examined using DNA and carbon dating. The only way you are going to get academia to even be somewhat interested in your theories is to be able to confront them with evidence of human remains that can be carbon dated to a pre-Columbian date and are of European origin. Anything else is just not going to work no matter how many rune stones you find or examine. Forget the stones, look for bodies.
Now I’m off to order a couple of your books on your other web site. I’ll check back in later to see if there are any responses to this post by you or anyone else for that matter.
Irene
Irene,
DeleteNo, we didn't offer anybody $1,000 for anything. We wouldn't do that and didn't need to. Billy's posting to his cousin stands on it's own; nothing more needs to said about it, except we now know exactly what happened and there will be no confusion in the future.
Billy took down the exchange and the pictures he posted of the carving in progress. Jean contacted me about the exchange with her cousin that she copied before he removed it. Unfortunately, she didn't get the photos, but they are not necessary at this point. Jean was more than happy to see their exchange posted as she is disgusted by her cousin's behavior.
Not sure why the link didn't work as I simply copy and pasted the exchange?
Bodies would be great, but the rocks are more reliable than I think you're giving them credit for. Certain segments of academia can only stick their heads in the sand for so long until the public takes action and funds dry up. They will change their arrogant and controlling attitudes pretty quickly when the money for their precious pet projects dries up.
Scott,
DeleteI’m glad you didn’t offer any money to anyone because of that hoax, but you know you have detractors who will use anything to discredit you, no matter how small. But at this point, the least said about that incident, the better.
Trust me, I’m not questing the reliability of rocks. Not. At. All. And even if I were, you don’t really think I’d admit that to a geologist, do you? I’m thinking more in the terms of cross disciplines being used to confirm your ideas, at least as far as academia is concerned. Think about it, geology, mythology and anthropology all being used and all those disciplines pointing to the same conclusion. While scholars might dismiss one discipline they would have a hard time dismissing all of them.
I, for one, have believed that there have been more voyages from the old world, or worlds if you include China, to the new world then main stream historians will allow. And I’ve believed that for years, which is one of the reasons I’m so interested in what you are doing. The trouble is that you don’t see many main stream scholars trying to prove it; it’s just much easier for them to sit back, dismiss the idea and then teach the next generation of scholars that it never happened. How many years did these historians refuse to accept the idea that the Vikings made it to the new world until a Norse settlement was found in Newfoundland? It’s only people like you, Scott, that are willing to think ‘outside the box’ that will find something that will change how we understand how history unfolded. And for that I’ll be rooting for you and wish you good luck.
Irene
Irene,
DeleteI'm well aware of the detractors and their methods; they're on this blog constantly often trying to veil their true motives. I'm pretty good at sniffing the sneaky ones.
We have a perfect example of cross-disciplinary consistency with the Kensington Rune Stone. As I've stated many times, the factual evidence in every relevant discipline including geology, runology, linguistics, history, etc., is perfectly consistent and conclusive. There is no factual evidence consistent with a forgery despite the insistence of skeptics and dogmatic academics who allowed arrogance to cloud their minds. The historical implications of this artifact are profound and will sooner or later. Following the evidence trail that began on the Ohman Farm, led to the truth about Jesus and MM for me. What else is there to learn is the question?
Someone has to shake up the status quo for our children. I want to my kids, grandkids, and the ones I'll never meet to know the truth about this world. Rarely do we get an opportunity to be part of something bigger than ourselves.
I'm trying to make the most of my opportunity for them.
I just wanted to add a question... I notice that the hooked X above in the photo, and the one shown on the show, from Portugal, has a flourish at other ends of the X as well... this makes it somewhat different from the hooked X you've shown on "American" runestones. Any thoughts on this?
ReplyDeleteI had noticed when looking at Maggiolo's 1527 Verrazzano map that there are flourishes on the X characters? How do you distinguish a true hooked X from a stylized X?
Aaron,
DeleteThe one above that Janet found in Portugal is stylized for sure. However, it is the extension of the upper right arm creating the "v" at the top that makes it a Hooked X. The stylizing makes it easier to hide the symbolism and leave open plausible deniability.
Hi Scott, I always find new information about hooked X's interesting since the Kensington Runestone is plastered with them. I'm thinking that maybe the stylized hooked X found in the Templar church in Tomar could have been further stylized into the more recognizable version of the “more modern” medieval hooked X.
DeleteI'm not as confident of the origins of the hooked X as you are going back to Egypt, etc., but I realize that the "final" version used on the Kensington Runestone and the Maine Runestones came from somewhere at some place in time. I'm thinking that with so many early leaders of the Knights Templar being entombed at this church in Tomar, and because of the existence of the prominent "stylized" hooked X being present for Templars to keep seeing, maybe the stylized Roman numeral 10 (you pictured) could have been reduced down and further stylized into the later and more familiar hooked X. Just a thought about possible origins of the Fourteen Century hooked X, and if possibly attributable to Templars...whether in Tomar or elsewhere.
In other words, this would possibly make the hooked X at the church in Tomar into a sort of baseline hooked X symbol to later be reduced down in a progressive manner for future, secretive Templar identity purposes...to even later help establish the movers and shakers behind the purposely mysterious American runestones....
Scott, I do recognize the transition of the hooked X from the American runestones' use forward to the Larsson Papers as a "secret" symbol used in communications, which seems to indicate a reverse transition from Freemasons back to Templars, especially if the hooked X at Rosslyn Chapel is more than a mason's mark. The idea for the upper portion of that hooked X (the hook on the upper right) came from somewhere…and I don’t think you ever suggested it symbolizes Christ’s penis, did you, as I read in another blog very recently? (Can your reputation be partially redeemed, is the question?) :-)
Scott, though I think we have to leave a bit of room for the hooked X possibly being used by other Christians who may have come to Minnesota, besides Templars, I think it is entirely possible that the use of the hooked X on the Kensington Runestone was to help later identify who the men were, besides Swedes and Norwegians. (Much was kept in secret back then, as today.)
It makes sense to me that the rune carver from Gotland may have been a Cistercian monk, as you think, and needing muscle to help get around. So, it makes sense, too, that post-Templars may have been involved with this kind of support, since these "warrior-monks" were linked at the hip with the more peaceful monks. The possibility of post-Templar power being present in Minnesota back in 1362 is very real, in my humble opinion--as fantastical as it may sound to some ears. And, we can see by the existence of an ocean-to-ocean waterway route, a circular route far inland marked with dozens of medieval Scandinavian stoneholes, that these folks knew their way around.
Scott, I hope you'll have the opportunity to delve into the story of the KRS much more in future episodes of AU! I think there’s enough collateral information and interests to keep zeroing-in from all different angles. Showing and talking about stoneholes indepth could be one episode. Showing very clearly the waterways used by early Scandinavians could be another episode. Other episodes could focus in on how the KRS messege is accurate in different ways. (But, it would help if everything stays fact-based as much as possible, so new believers aren’t lost along the way because of what the adventurers may or may not have been thinking in their minds and hearts.)
Scott, have you considered the v being a y, representing a male (xy) offspring? Enjoy your program. JM
DeleteJM,
DeleteMany people have suggested that and it's certainly possible. Why couldn't it be another meaning for the symbol?
Hi Scott. After reading the above facebook exchange, I went back and watched last week's episode with you exposing the hoax. Looking at it with a critical eye, it appears that the entire scene with you informing the two men that it was a hoax was edited with prior shots of them reacting to things said within a different context. I mean, there are no shots where we can see you speaking your accusations with them in it as well. Reading the above exchange, it makes it seem that you were tipped off by an associate of the hoaxer before determining for yourself that it was in fact a hoax. Then you went back and reshot the scene without the two men actually being there where you determine it was a hoax.
ReplyDeleteIs this accurate?
Absolutely not; it happened exactly as you saw it. After filming the greeting and my initial examination, we broke for lunch. I thought something was fishy with the carving and snuck away during lunch to examine it uninterrupted. It was then I confirmed the glued-in mud within the carved grooves.
DeleteI was extremely pissed off and went back to the cars and quietly told the director. Nobody else knew what had happened when we started filming after lunch. My confrontation with them you saw is exactly what happened. I was pretty sure Billy was in on it since he "found" it, I didn't know then, and still don't know what role, if any, Butch played in the hoax. At this point, it doesn't matter.
I figured it out all by myself this time.
People certainly interpret a lot from a brief bit of TV viewing. For instance, because you said on the phone to me that you were in my "neck of the woods," one blog's comments had several people claiming (like complete morons) that I was the one who carved it. Western Pennsylvania is very far from where I live outside of New York City. My neck of the woods? Maybe to a Minnesotan fella !!
DeleteBut anyway, people bring their own prejudices to everything they encounter. If they have a grudge, the carry that into everything they see.
Moronic is an understatement, Steve.
DeleteOnly a jackass would think that.
It certainly wouldn't take an FBI facial recognition expert to realize the guys were in on the hoax. Those dudes looked like kids denying stealing candy with the candy bar still poking out of their pockets. My question is, what was their motive...or who contrived such a motive? They just don't remind me of the type to go through all the trouble without a brain behind the operation.
DeleteScott, if you look at many of the paintings of the founding fathers, you will see the "M".
ReplyDeleteDavid,
DeleteIt's everywhere once you start looking!
Scott,
ReplyDeleteBy seeking the truth so publicly you may cause great effort to hide it even further. But any such effort may also leave evidence and clues, such as replacing a large piece of stone/column facing with a symbol on it with a new one with no symbol. The Templar/Mason connection? Alexandria, Virginia. The Masonic Temple. Go ASAP.
I've been to the Masonic Temple in Alexandria, but maybe I should go again?
DeleteAs far as trying to hide evidence of the truth, it's too late. The truth is already out and evidence proving it is building at pace that can't be stopped. Making it public only the speeds that process. It's important to get the truth out so we can start getting this world going in a better direction. Only through knowing the truth can get where we all need to be.
just a small joke in the latest comments -- I feel silly today. Irene asked if ground penetrating radar could be used and Scott said they can only stick their heads in the sand.....
ReplyDeleteOK, so I'm not really looking for heads but the thought.............for just a second (smiles)
Dave,
DeleteWith all this heavy discussion a little levity is a good thing!
Scott, you have me convinced and can't wait for the next season. I will also be checking into some of your books!
ReplyDeleteGreat show last night, Scott. Heavy stuff. I have some other interests where, coincidentally, things that were once ridiculed are now becoming practically undeniable as truth. It seems the method the mainstream uses to deal with these sorts of things is to simply not address it. I guess that's what they're stuck with.
ReplyDeleteMy wife and I hope you're successful getting another season at the least.
Scott - we've never missed an episode- looking forward to next season! a quick question:
ReplyDeletethe inscription on the church column, in the show you said it was in Latin... can you share what it says?
also.... did you and Mr.St.Claire (Sinclaire?) go into the Castle or the Tower outside the Church? the Tunnel connecting sounds interesting! ...
or is that for next season "espisode#1" ;)
keep up the good Hunt.. most intriguing!
Bruce,
DeleteWe did translate that inscription, but that was almost a year ago and I've forgotten the message; I was certainly distracted by the Hooked X. If I find it I'll post it.
We did not get into the tunnel, but maybe perhaps next time.
The tunnel from castle to church seems to be a common theme. The same exists at Rosslyn. It's my understanding, some people have tried tunneling into the tunnel at Rosslyn.
DeleteThe translation would be interesting. I hope you find it.
Best regards,
Anthony
Troutman,
ReplyDeleteI appreciate your kind words; wouldn't be nice if we could get the mainstream to work with us? Maybe someday...
Greetings Scott,
ReplyDeleteAlthough I do not agree with your overall conclusions, I do find your research fascinating and I appreciate your fire and curiosity. Yes, things are not as they appear and there is much more going on beneath the obvious. I am glad that views which are different from those of mainstream historical opinion are being allowed airtime. I look forward to watching where your curiosity leads you in the future.
With all respect,
A fan.
after reading earlier comments about Columbus ships and the "Pinta" not being the real name i found this link:http://www.answers.com/Q/What_three_ships_did_Christopher_Columbus_sail_with
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The names of the ships were la Santa Clara, la Pinta, la Santa Maria/Gallega. The crew renamed the ships the Nina (the girl, or rather, the "working" girl); the Pintada (or the "painted" one; i.e. the girl wearing make-up, in other words, the prostitute) and the Maria Galante (the surname of another "lady of leisure"). The church censored the nicknames to more christian names which are now considered "true history."
The Santa MarÃa was the largest of the three ships and also the slowest used by Christopher Columbus in his first voyage across the Atlantic Ocean in 1492. Her master and owner was Juan de la Cosa.
The Niña (the Spanish word for "girl") was one of the three ships used by Christopher Columbus in his first voyage towards the Indies in 1492. It was the smallest of the three. The real name of the Niña was Santa Clara. Her master and owner was Juan Niño.
La Pinta (the "Painted") was the fastest of the three ships used by Christopher Columbus in his first voyage across the Atlantic Ocean in 1492. Captain of the Pinta was MartÃn Alonzo Pinzón.
Read more: http://www.answers.com/Q/What_three_ships_did_Christopher_Columbus_sail_with#ixzz3QWssL0Ee
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how's that for eye bugging out!? and on reading the names aloud to my wife she said "Santa Clara" could be interpreted as St.Claire........ :o
the Truth is waiting to be revealed, but i think until the Vatican opens its vaults, we're never going to know, beyond speculation and putting facts together to prove it to those who believe ~
thanks Scott!
Bruce,
DeleteThat's interesting indeed and wouldn't surprise me at the Church sanitized the names to their liking. I'll let people decide for themselves what they think about this one.
I'll be sure to let Steve St. Clair know about the possible connection to his name.
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ReplyDeleteGreg,
DeleteVery few academics are Freemasons and certainly not the close-minded ones. Their lack of Freemasonic principals is partly why they dwell in so much darkness. You are correct that all Freemasons are not perfect people, in fact none of them are.
Someday...
"Someday..." what?
DeleteThere are many people who don't agree with all of our conclusions and that is perfectly fine. What I think we can all agree on is the whole story of our history has not been told and much of it needs refining.
ReplyDeleteThat's what we are trying to do and I know you can appreciate that.
I can't thank you enough for the work you do and the passion with which you do it. The secret that has been suppressed for over two thousand years must now be told. It is now time for the truth to be revealed for those who have suffered persecution over all these centuries to be vindicated. It is only through truth and a true balance on all levels between the male and Sacred Feminine that we will achieve that balance. Your work as well as others is helping bring the world to a better place.
ReplyDeleteJ Moore,
ReplyDeleteWell said and thank you; I can't add anything more to what you've said.
As a young adult I had a fascination with flags. I looked up Tomar's flag. Assumming it's an accurate depiction, it is made up of 8 triangular sections. I also plugged in the town's coordinates in an app......-8.4W.
ReplyDeleteLet's not forget about the secrets that flags hold, and can reveal.
-SG
SG,
DeleteYou are quite correct there is a whole other language with flags throughout history through to today. Much of that language and symbolism is absolutely secret.
Ain't nothin' gonna get between Scott and the Super Bowl...except a hooked X???
ReplyDeleteGo Patriots!!!
Congrats to the Pats; talk about an amazing game and finish. Wow!
DeleteDamn! Nice boots!
ReplyDeleteIf you're talking about Janet and Anita in their styling boots; I agree!
DeleteHowdy, I love your show. It's enjoyable and informative in the aspect of a different point of view. It's sad that history was written, mostly, by those who conquered and destroyed other civilizations... it must be nice to " utterly" destroy those they have already defeated. The world would still be flat on paper if it weren't for truth and those who stand up for it. ( though, it's been realized through technology the earth is not spherical, it's just kinda round, in places... how long till that gets out?) So, I hope your discoveries make it to the books with credit given. I don't know if this helps with anything, but the first crusade was the only true crusade. Once the crown was established, the church refused the bloodline. When that order fell, so did every bit of the new kingdom. I suggest the church made a deal with the family to give them the new world ( discovered by Vikings, Vikings christinized in 1103 ad) if they surrendered the holy land... intending to make it like the present day vatican. Of the 144 people executed as Templars by Phillip of France, it's recorded that only 20 were actually Templars. A definite covering is obvious.... did you realize the statue of liberty is at full term pregnancy? The Templars followed scriptures in their time. Would it be so far fetched that they searched for a place to hide til the end time? I don't mean to sound religiously fanatic, but... in revelations it mentions the seven seals... The fifth seal is a V upon the exodus (X) and would be an acknowledgement of that seal... after all, they were a biblically structured order.... just an idea to contemplate. I'm a baldwin myself, so I've always been interested in this subject.
ReplyDeleteOh, I forgot to mention the Trojans... conquered by Greece, turned into the Roman war horse... By the x having a v, they would be parting from Rome's rule, or leaving the church... going to what they believed to be the true promised land. Just a crazy thought.
ReplyDeleteYour season finale was fabulous. I was most interested in the church at St. Marten De Champs in which you said that a family that carried Jesus and Mary Magdalene's bloodline had been buried in a section outside the church. What was the last name of that family? Thank you for your time. My family and I are looking forward to next season.
ReplyDeleteHi Scott,
ReplyDeleteI'm a big fan of yours, your efforts and the program! And I have something cool, I think, to share with you.
While I was watching the last episode, and about a minute and half later, after you and Steve St. Clair walked into the Church of Santa Maria do Olival, I noticed something that I thought for sure you or Steve would have noticed and would have commented on. I even stopped the episode and rewind back to what I saw just make sure I saw it! Then I watched the rest of the episode and nothing was said about what I saw.
This is what I saw: The camera panned to a shot just above the altar. There hung a tapestry with a cross surrounded by, what appeared to me as, "double M's! "A cross inside a M, inside another M!" Also, below that, a "Rose!"
Is that something you guys missed or you saw it, but for some reason didn't mention it? Please let me know!
Hi Scott:
ReplyDeleteI recently read where you damaged the KRS during your dating efforts. Without going into detail you drilled a big hole out of the back of it. Apparently, you also used some kind of mold or casting process that permanently changed the color of this important artifact. Is this true?
Anonymous,
DeleteI did take a core sample out of the back of the stone. The subsequent petrographic work I did was invaluable in determining the significant weathering/age of the inscription. It helped prove the authenticity.
At the time, the consensus was the KRS was a hoax. Therefore, obtaining a core sample from the back side of the stone meant there was nothing to lose and everything to gain. In this case, it turned out to be a Home Run.
The "discoloration" from molding the KRS myth was a rumor put out by my disgruntled former co-author as a way to try and discredit me after our break up. I was not the person who made the mold which did no harm to the KRS.
No, this is not true.
Scott:
ReplyDeleteWhat did you mean when you said in the season finale that Venus goes around the sun 8 times, and that this makes the number 8 sacred? I don't understand.
Anonymous,
DeleteWhen viewed from earth, Venus traces a five-pointed star over a period of 8 earth years. Because Venus has always been the physical manifestation of the Goddess in the heavens (the sun is her eternal traveler and consort). 8 + 5 = 13.
So I guess Scott's going to have to "rewrite" chapter 3 of his book "Akhenaten".. He has some more additions to add to the known list of "X"'s.
ReplyDeleteI would be very interested and am looking for all the info I can find on the "Cremona Document". And of course, the study Scott mentioned on the "hooked X" astrolabe being from the 12th century instead of the 13th/14th century.
To find the "X" at the Tomar Castle is the master stroke. The game is over. The academics have got to answer that one.
but will they ----- time will tell.
Dave,
ReplyDeleteYou won't fine anything on the web about the Cremona Document; at least for a little while yet. Stay tuned, it'll be worth the wait!
“C” Documents Map.-page 214, Akhenaten to the FF
DeleteThe Circle with a two horizontal Lines- Means use North 45° Latitude Astrolabe
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The name “rhodon” is from the Greek rhodon, meaning “rose"- Meaning that there is a compass rose at the star on the Map.
La Deesse- French- There is a mouth of a river at 45° degrees between 46’ and 47’ minutes.
Pasadena,
DeleteVery good! I'm wondering what you would do with the rest of the map?
Scott,
DeleteFor Longitude it depends upon if use the Azores or Paris or Tomar or London or Jerusalem- as the Prime Meridian.
LXVI VI=W66° 6’
LXIII LVII=W73° 57’
Everyone has to buy your book to know what we are talking about!
page 214-Akenaten to the FF
Pasadena,
DeleteThat's a good point! There really is lot of good and unexpected stuff in there.
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DeleteCremona Document - “ C “ Documents Map
DeleteScott,
For the Longitude Numbers on the Cremora Map use the" El Hierro Prime Meridian" in the Canary Islands.
The Ferro (El Hierro) meridian is 17° 39’ 46’ west of the Greenwich meridian.
http://www.academickids.com/encyclopedia/index.php/El_Hierro
At the 45° Latitude 1° = 48.99 Statute Miles (sm)
http://www.csgnetwork.com/degreelenllavcalc.html
on the “C” documents map:
LXIII LVII = 63° 57’ or 64° W (longitude 1) x 48.99= 3135 sm
LXVI VI = 66° degrees 6’ minutes W (longitude 2) or 48.99 x 66= 3233 sm
At the 45° Latitude go west 3135 miles (longitude 1) and 3233 miles (longitude 2) from the Ferro Prime Meridian.
p@
Oh, I do love the mystery. I have a "feeling" the Vatican is in this somewhere (you don't have to answer that one).
ReplyDeleteShould I be re-reading Dan Brown??????
Hello Scott,
ReplyDeleteAll I can say is WOW and Thank you! Your show's last two episodes have been saying what I have believed for awhile now....I had the good fortune to live in London 2004-2006 and by chance picked up the book "The Last Templar". The story intrigued me enough to start looking into the theory of Jesus' bloodline. On my off time I visited the Templar churches and began putting the pieces together. I too believe the Templar's where the great protector's of the biblical secrect's and that is why the Pope and King of France (along with clearing great debt) order the death and capture of the Master Templars. We all know how much power the Church had back then and how broke France was and if the Templars came forward with the truth of Jesus' bloodline it would destory Catholism--therefore no more Church. I believe Jesus married Marymageldon and women were worship and thought of as being very spiritual' and this had no place in the Catholic Church. And because back then their was no media so spreading the the word that Jesus was married with a child wouldnt have been as easy as one might think; so keeping this secret was very viable. Then you have the Templars moving to Scotland after they are forced to go underground and finally coming to the America's bring along the surving Templars and blood line of Jesus. Once the Templar's moved to the US they took on the name Freemanson to continue to protect themselves from any inquisitions from the Church. The symbolism linking all this together is just to overwhelming to deny--as you pointed it out in your show. And too add more to the cover up America's history that didn't start until Christopher Columbus because they didnt want us to know what came before him......I was so sad to realized all I had learned in school was wrong. The history that I thought our country was built on wasn't the complete story. And even better when I would travel through Europe discussing my ideas people looked at me with shocking stares as if they knew these facts.......Is it only the American's that don't know Amercia's greatest cover up??
Thank you for all that you do.....in some way I am jealous of the time you get to spend searching for the truth....unfortunately I have a day job that requires my time. But I am always trying to look for the next adventure. Look forward to your shows please never stop searching for the truth its out there...I feel it in my bones!
Thank you,
SAdams
SAdams,
DeleteIt's interesting how much more open-minded people are in Europe (excluding certain academics in Scandinavia) than in the United States to the idea of pre-Columbian European contact in the America's. The reason is they were not brain-washed with the "Columbus was first" propaganda we were brought up with.
It takes time for deeply engrained (B.S. in this case) stories to be cleansed. We've been watching the same thing happening right now on a larger scale with the myth of Jesus and his divinity. 30 years ago it was only a whisper, now it's on History Channel being openly discussed.
Imagine how it was difficult it was at the beginning of the Age of Enlightenment? Now you can understand why symbols like the "M" sign were hidden. It's amazing to me how so few people were aware of it until recently.
"Columbus was first" is a belief no longer held by academia. It is well established by both archeological and historical evidence that there were in fact Scandinavian voyagers to Greenland and Canada well before Columbus sailed the ocean blue. So there is no engrained sentiment otherwise within the academic community, nor even John Q. Public at this point.
DeleteI'm not sure what you're point is? Don't we still acknowledge Columbus Day? If academia considers this such a forgone conclusion, don't you think they should weigh in publically to clear up the confusion?
DeleteAnd while they're at it; they should also make a statement about being open-minded to earlier contact before the Norse at L'Anse aux Meadows.
I'm sure the academic community would welcome valid archeological and historical evidence of such earlier contact should it ever be found. But as for Columbus Day, it's not celebrated in every State and is becoming more of an Italian-American pride celebration. You're going to tell them to get rid of their holiday? Fuggedaboutit.
DeleteVoluminous evidence has already been found; the academic community refuses to acknowledge it let alone take it seriously. And please don't try to tell me they would welcome it as they have demonstrated repeatedly they do not.
DeleteItalian? I don't think there is any agreement on the heritage of the famous explorer. The last thin I read was that he was likely Jewish?
Columbus Day is a Federal holiday.
DeleteI don't know what state you live in but my teenage nephews were taught Columbus came to America first. It's a bigger problem than you may realize.
If they haven't taken the voluminous evidence seriously, I'm sure they considered the source.
DeleteAnonymous,
Delete"I'm sure they considered the source." You have stated the situation perfectly. In certain segments of academia, it isn't about the veracity of the evidence, it's about personalities and agenda's.
At least you're finally coming clean about the problems we've known about all along.
I was speaking of the veracity of the source.
DeleteYes, I understood. Your slur didn't need to come with instructions.
DeleteI was watching America Unearthed a couple nights ago and the topic was Templars in America. You mentioned that the crosses on the sails of Columbus' ships were the Templar cross. I recognized that cross as the cross in the Virgilskapelle, an underground chapel that had been rediscovered when the U-bahn in Vienna was being constructed. When I was living in Vienna, I visited the Virgilskapelle several times...just get on the U-bahn to Stephansplatz and there it was.
ReplyDeleteStill digging for more information on it, but online I was able to discover that it is dated to at least the early 13th century and mentioned in 1307 (significant date?) as a chapel of a Viennese family Chrannest. It was underground, below the Magdalenkapelle connected by a shaft. Madgalenkapelle is described as a chapel for consecrations and Requiem masses. It burned down in 1781 after the Dom cemetery was closed in 1732 and the Virgilkapelle filled with rubble and forgotten for nearly 200 years.
The shaft from the Virgilkapelle to Magdelenkapelle might have been used as part of a birthing ritual. While living in Austria for 2 years I met a midwife who had built a geburtshaus to prepare couples for a birthing in which they would to a ritual and meditation in the lower level of the geburtshaus and then climb up a ladder into the chamber above as a pre-enactment of the birth of their child. Since the Magdalene Chapel was the birth entry to the world, it might have been used for more than Requiem mass and consecrations...unless the birthing is a consecration...from the womb, through the birthing channel, into the light of day.
You can see the Templar Cross on my Facebook page...at the top, can't miss it.
Allen Heart fb
Scott,
ReplyDeleteI was wondering if you noted how many of the statues in the US Capital rotunda demonstrated the "M". I found at least one: https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6118/6344905673_260927e155_o_d.jpg.
I also came across this interesting one of George Washington in NYC. I'm assuming the sculptor was related to the Adams family. It clearly demonstrates the "M", http://travelphotobase.com/i/USNYC/NYCWF021.JPG.
Might be an interesting topic for a future show.
The subject of symbolism is an endless topic and we're hoping to bring more of it to light on the show.
DeleteStay tuned!
Hello again Scott!
ReplyDeleteGreat season ending episode! I'm going to miss them only for awhile I hope. I think your doing a great job of getting interest up about history, which is a good thing. I am giving my double vote for another season round of you checking out new history adventures. I am happy you got this blog going for questions and also to add even more findings into the show. You got my eager vote for more episodes!
Ernie Pyle Lister, (not from the w. Coast)
Thanks Ernie,
DeleteI'm hoping to have good news very soon. Regardless, we'll keep sharing new finds and research here even if the show ends.
What are your thoughts on the carvings in Domme, France? Templar or not? If yes, have you been there or examined the carvings?
ReplyDeleteScott,
ReplyDeleteI can't thank you enough for all the work you are doing to help everyone learn more about our country's history. My 11 year old daughter and I never miss an episode and we both are truly fascinated with the freemasons and Templars. My husband's family tree has been traced and found out my daughter is a distant cousin of George Washington. When we watched episodes about the freemasons and Templars, this peaked our interest even more. Haters will always hate, doubters will always doubt. Thank you for always seeking more answers and asking "why not". You and your ongoing research is amazing, informative and thank you again for helping seek the truth. You are making a difference, especially in my daughter's eyes. She's more interested in learning history than ever before!
Sincerely,
Rebecca & Jenny Hurst
Denver, Colorado
Dan Brown? That's fiction... ;-)
ReplyDeleteExcellent third season, Scott! What an amazing two part season finale! I eagerly await the renewal for a fourth season.
ReplyDeleteJust imagine all the history lost during conquests and disasters. I have long believed that geology holds the answer to finding our lost history. After all, documents can be altered or destroyed, but geological evidence is much more difficult to get rid of!
It's such a shame that modern society has encouraged close-minded thought processes. Wouldn't the world be so much nicer if people kept an open mind? If only society could acknowledge that you don't have to completely agree with a person or their views/beliefs, just as others don't always need to totally agree with yours! But if everyone thought alike, we would still be in the Stone Age!
Hi Scott, I hope to clarify my post above in this thread, as concerning this portion of that post (quoting myself here):
ReplyDelete"The idea for the upper portion of that hooked X (the hook on the upper right) came from somewhere…and I don’t think you ever suggested it symbolizes Christ’s penis, did you, as I read in another blog very recently? (Can your reputation be partially redeemed, is the question?) :-)"
Here is the comment from an "infamous" blog host, which I had thought might be an inaccuracy...or, at least I never read or heard you say anything quite this graphic. I'm familiar with the hook being compared to the offspring of Jesus and Mary--that is, Christ's child, but I wasn't aware of you saying the hook is representative of Christ's penis. (I know, this gets pretty rough, spiritually, for some folks.) Here's the quote from the very recent "debunker" blog heading:
"After the credits, Wolter recaps last week’s rune stone hoax, and then Wolter explains why he believes that the Hooked X® represents the penis of Jesus penetrating the womb of Mary Magdalene and impregnating her with a fetus. An on-screen graphic shows this, with the “hook” on the stave marked as “child.”"
Simple question, Scott, if you don't mind: the hook...tell me it's a child and nothing even more offensive? Thanks for the clarification. One version actually does sound much worse than the other, if that's possible when trying to reason out blasphemy. (This is my own perception, as I realize you yourself don't consider the concept of a Jesus Bloodline particularly offensive.)
My question is over whether or not you think you have been misrepresented in your beliefs. Thanks for the weird indulgence. (I don't want folks to think more harshly about you than they should, ironically.)
Hi Scott, I sent a message last night, but don't think it got posted, so I'll try again!
ReplyDeleteWhile watching your last episode, I think noticed something in the Church of Santa Maria do Olival. At one point the camera was fixed on the tapestry above the alter. Right a way I noticed on the tapestry a double M surrounding a cross. And below all of that what appeared to be a rose! As I watched the rest of the episode, waiting for you or Steve St Clare to comment on this, nothing! Is this something that was over looked or did you guys notice it and for some reason desiided not to comment! Please let me know!
P.S. Love your show! Keep up the great work!
John,
DeleteSorry, we had a Super Bowl party and I didn't get to the blog until this morning. As for the symbolism in the de Olival, there was a ton of it and we simply didn't have time in the show to point everything out. In some case, we don't on purpose to see if the viewers are paying attention.
You obviously were!
Hello Scott,
ReplyDeleteNow that the Narragansett Stone has been recovered, will you be one of the people allowed to study it?
Do you know why the thief wasn't publicly humiliated?
Best regards,
Anthony
Anthony,
DeleteI had a whole day to examine the inscription uninterrupted last summer and it was awesome.
The thief was identified as Tim Mellon, who owned the land where the stone was located just offshore. I knew it was him from the beginning, but he did return it. In the end, his actions got it out of the water for us without a prolonged effort. We should actually thank him for getting it out.
Naw, I'm not going to do that...
Scott,
DeleteI'm certainly happy, some good came out of a bad situation. I wouldn't have been offended if he was given a trip to Singapore. Is there anything gleaned from you examination that you can share?
With yesterday being Imbolc/Groundhog Day/Cross Quarter Day, I am curious...Any plans on doing a show dedicated to the four natural divisions of the year, and math required to determine the Cross Quarter Days? Interestingly, the symbolism for the 8 divisions seems to be older than known civilizations. The symbols morphs but, the underlying meaning stays the same. From the eight legs of a spider to more modern symbols for the same idea.
Best regards,
Anthony
Hey Scott,
ReplyDeleteI do watch the show. Do you know that there is a statue of lady liberty in Fargo, ND?
Thank you for your time.
Andrew Peterson
East Grand Forks, MN
Niceguy2400,
DeleteI did not know that; I'll have to check it out next time I'm there. Cool.
Gunn,
ReplyDeleteWhy people even read that other blog amazes me. All debunker does is take the opposite position of whatever we conclude on an episode and beat it into the ground with nonsense.
The quote you posted about the Hooked X is the debunker's complete fabrication that has nothing to do with anything I've ever said or written. The "hook" in the upper right arm of the Hooked X creates small "v" symbolic of a child; a child inside the big "V" which is symbolic of the child in the womb of it's mother. Mary Magdalene in this case.
I hope this clarifies the situation?
Anybody who happens on his page and reads that crap, thinking you said some lowbrow comment, and without knowing who you are or your research, would go away thinking you are a nut-job with a Jesus and Mary Magdalene porn fetish, and not consider you as a valid researcher. I would say go after him for false representation, but is he really worth the time...?
DeleteI've been to that site a few times, and all he does is take the complete opposite side of views while trying to be witty and condescending, all the while twisting things around. Its one thing to have a different point of view, but to put comments into people minds to mislead them into thinking it was something you actual said just petty and wrong.
It's probably not worth posting my comment as the site is not worthy of the attention.
TD Bauer,
DeleteYou're absolutely right about debunkers taking the opposite viewpoint regardless how silly, just to be contrary. What I have a problem with is the blatant dishonesty, such as the inappropriate and inaccurate portrayal of the Hooked X symbolism.
In this particular case, the debunker's habit is to constantly remind readers of his superior intelligence, yet he us to believe he made an honest mistake about getting the Hooked X symbolism all wrong. No; it was an intentional insult to the obvious, clear, and beautiful symbolism.
It's pathetic and sad.
Mr. Wolter,
DeleteThough a fan of your show, I must admit that I am open to all competing views on the subjects you tackle. However, I have yet to come across any written support of your views published after you made them clear. On the other hand, there is quite a bit of material out there adverse to your claims, and not just insults on someone else's blog. I am talking true academic material, written and submitted for academic review.
How vast is this conspiracy you speak of that is against you? Have you any solid proof that others have conspired in fear of your revelations?
There is no legitimate peer reviewed academic material that refutes any of my claims. The bogus research I've mentioned involves a select few who are trying to undermine my research to wrestle control of the discussion to their advantage.
DeleteIt is not worth discussing because it has no merit and I'm pretty confident you already know that. It is not fear that drives these individuals, it is ego.
Scott
DeleteSorry my post is so long, it requires a part 2.
GunnFebruary 2, 2015 at 7:26 PM
"Hi Scott, I hope to clarify my post above in this thread, as concerning this portion of that post (quoting myself here):
"The idea for the upper portion of that hooked X (the hook on the upper right) came from somewhere…and I don’t think you ever suggested it symbolizes Christ’s penis, did you, as I read in another blog very recently? (Can your reputation be partially redeemed, is the question?) :-)"
Here is the comment from an "infamous" blog host, which I had thought might be an inaccuracy...or, at least I never read or heard you say anything quite this graphic. I'm familiar with the hook being compared to the offspring of Jesus and Mary--that is, Christ's child, but I wasn't aware of you saying the hook is representative of Christ's penis. (I know, this gets pretty rough, spiritually, for some folks.) Here's the quote from the very recent "debunker" blog heading:
"After the credits, Wolter recaps last week’s rune stone hoax, and then Wolter explains why he believes that the Hooked X® represents the penis of Jesus penetrating the womb of Mary Magdalene and impregnating her with a fetus. An on-screen graphic shows this, with the “hook” on the stave marked as “child.”"
Gunn accuses the ""infamous" blog host"" of misrepresentation in that the ""infamous" blog host" said that you said/wrote at some time or another, that the "upper portion of that hooked X (the hook on the upper right)" "symbolizes Christ’s penis". He then supplies a quote from the ""infamous" blog host"" claiming said quote proves his accusation.
Just to be clear, you and Gunn ARE both well aware that when the ""infamous" blog host"" writes "Hooked X®", he means the whole symbol, not just the "upper portion of that hooked X (the hook on the upper right)". No where in that supplied quote is the reference made to the "upper portion of that hooked X (the hook on the upper right)" symbolizing Christ's/Jesus' penis and he even makes it clear in the last sentence that said "hook" represents "child".
The only misrepresentation is Gunn misrepresenting what the ""infamous" blog host"" wrote.
Your reply:
Scott Wolter February 2, 2015 at 8:28 PM
Gunn,
"Why people even read that other blog amazes me. All debunker does is take the opposite position of whatever we conclude on an episode and beat it into the ground with nonsense.
The quote you posted about the Hooked X is the debunker's complete fabrication that has nothing to do with anything I've ever said or written. The "hook" in the upper right arm of the Hooked X creates small "v" symbolic of a child; a child inside the big "V" which is symbolic of the child in the womb of it's mother. Mary Magdalene in this case."
Cont.
Part 2
DeleteScott Wolter February 3, 2015 at 8:52 AM
TD Bauer,
"You're absolutely right about debunkers taking the opposite viewpoint regardless how silly, just to be contrary. What I have a problem with is the blatant dishonesty, such as the inappropriate and inaccurate portrayal of the Hooked X symbolism.
In this particular case, the debunker's habit is to constantly remind readers of his superior intelligence, yet he us to believe he made an honest mistake about getting the Hooked X symbolism all wrong. No; it was an intentional insult to the obvious, clear, and beautiful symbolism.
Pertinent points:
" blatant dishonesty, such as the inappropriate and inaccurate portrayal of the Hooked X symbolism."
"....yet he us to believe he made an honest mistake about getting the Hooked X symbolism all wrong. No; it was an intentional insult to the obvious, clear, and beautiful symbolism."
"The quote you posted about the Hooked X is the debunker's complete fabrication that has nothing to do with anything I've ever said or written."
Episode "Tracking The Templers":
In the second segment while talking with Mr. Roberti in his home, you make a drawing of the Hooked X® and break it down into it's components stating:
"Remember that hooked X? Here is the symbolism it represents. If we take the X and we chop it in half, okay, you end up with a (v) and a peak (^). Well the (v) is a symbol for the feminine. It represents the vessel, the chalice, the womb, the symbol for the female. When you revert that 180 degrees, you end up with the sword, the phallus, the penis, the symbol for the male. When you combine them together to make an X, you have the allegorical union of the male and female, heaven and earth, good bad, light and dark. this whole concept of dualism. Okay, we understand what the symbolism is with the X, but what is the hook? That's the key."
Mr. Roberti, "A child!"
You, "That's exactly what you see. You know a lot of people say that this symbol represents the Holy Trinity, (pointing to various parts of the hooked X) the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. In the case of the Hooked X®, here's what I think the holy trinity is, (again pointing to the various parts of the Hooked X®) Jesus, Mary Magdalene, and their child."
(If anyone would like to check the accuracy of the above, it starts at the 13:50 mark in this video http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxws9u_america-unearthed-tracking-the-templars_shortfilms )
You yourself said the bottom of the X, the (^), is a penis, the upper part of the X, the(v), is a womb and further state it represents Jesus and Mary Magdalene and the hook, their child.
Now given that you do not believe in immaculate conception, that there is no record of artificial insemination being practiced 2000 years ago, and that we are not naive children believing that one can become pregnant by swallowing a watermelon seed or by french kissing, that leaves only the normal way, via penetration.
The only difference from you own words and the ""infamous" blog host""/debunker is that he added the unstated logical requirement needed to produce the child, - the penetration.
No Gunn, no misrepresentation. Just a false accusation on your part.
No Scott, no"...blatant dishonesty, such as the inappropriate and inaccurate portrayal of the Hooked X symbolism."
No Scott, no "...it was an intentional insult to the obvious, clear, and beautiful symbolism."
No Scott, no "...the debunker's complete fabrication that has nothing to do with anything I've ever said or written."
I am well aware that both you and Gunn have or have had issues with said ""infamous" blog host""/debunker, but you both were wrong in this case and owe him an apology. (I'll not be holding my breath waiting for it though, I have COPD.)
Mike Morgan
MIke,
DeleteBoy, that was a lot of work to try and make a point. Regardless, I stand by what I said to Gunn in my previous post. The debunker's explanation referred to the "hook", or the upper left part of the little "v" as a penis which it is not. You may not see a difference in the explanation, but I do. I also don't think the debunker made a mistake in his description, but he can easily plausibly deny that.
In any case, there will be no apology issued from me because the situation doesn't warrant one. All that being said, I appreciate your efforts.
Scott
DeleteThank you for allowing my lengthy comment and your kind response.
" Boy, that was a lot of work to try and make a point." Ha :>) Yes it was considering I am a one fingered typist only using a a second finger to tap the "shift key" when necessary. I do like to make sure people understand what I comment about and why/how I reach my conclusions when making a point.
If I may add, I did go to the ""infamous" blog host/debunker" site and typed in the word "penis" in his search feature. Only a few of the 35 results pertained to blogs about you, your books, or your AU program. Of those that did, including Gunn's quote, I myself, could not find any instance where he wrote or inferred that he himself thought or wrote or inferred that you stated or inferred that the "upper portion of that hooked X (the hook on the upper right)" Christ's/Jesus's penis.
I also did the same for the "Hooked X®" and again found that any time he referenced it, he meant it as the complete symbol, not just the portion of the
"upper portion of that hooked X (the hook on the upper right)".
These factors were taken into account when making my above lengthy comment.
I would ask you to again examine the quote Gunn posted. If this re-examination, my points above, and my previous comment do not or can not sway you, then I am afraid we are at an impasse and I will have to be satisfied our disagreeing on the point.
I'll not flog this poor horse any longer.
Thank you for your consideration,
Mike Morgan
Mike,
DeleteI will say the debunker is very clever at wording things to give the impression of an outright accusation, yet still leaves the back door open a crack to wiggle out. In any case, my interpretation of the Hooked X symbolism is clear enough and I think it's time you, me, and the horse took a breather.
Hi Scott, yes, that about clarifies it about someone "possibly" trying to put words into your mouth. You're right, too, that the offender's blog is no longer even worth visiting since most of the voices of reason have either elected to leave or have been chased away by extremely harsh language and personal attacks, always by the same few who support this person who "possibly" likes to put words in peoples' mouths.
DeleteAs some people reading this know, that "host" and one of his most ardent supporters (the latter of whom apparently likes to make appearances here under different names as well as on the offender's blog) tried this with me over an attempted bogus "death threat" language build-up against me a few months back...which back-fired on them.
The bottom line, Scott, is that this same host tried to put words into MY mouth. I have a copy of everything in Word Docs, still, and competent legal representation on hand should you yourself feel a future need to stop this "possible" inappropriate public tarnishing and harassment...which I can probably help you show is more than likely both purposeful and not an accidental misuse of language.
Anyway, these nuisances aside, I do have one additional question, if you don't mind. I'm trying to get my head around what the exact ideology the Kensington Runestone party of men may possibly have been harboring in their minds and hearts; and partly because of the "AVM" exclamation carved into the stone, I thought it was pretty clear the men were of general Catholic Church leaning, but as I now understand it, you may read more into it?
I thought the Templars were put down mostly by a bad French king and a complicit pope, but not necessarily by the Catholic Church...which was why the Vatican cleared up the matter of the Templars' innocence shortly afterwards. This is one of the reasons why I kind of question whether the Templars remained at odds that much with the Catholic Church a half-century later, or at the time of the KRS (1362)--especially if one removes the bloodline ideology from the equation, as I must do (as you know).
Or is it that the "AVM" was not necessarily a purely Catholic expression in the way we typically think of it, for back then with the KRS party?
I sort of compare the history of the Catholic Church in my mind to that of a mortal human at times, with unsavory histories as well as personal triumphs. For instance, The Inquisition reminds me of America under former President George Bush, Jr., as a depraved torturer with secret prisons (a tyrant by dictionary definition). But no one can question the vast amount of good the Catholic Church has accomplished over the great haul of time, either.
I believe the true Church is the Body of Christ (true believers), anyway. I don't personally believe in praying through saints or Mary or having established rules against marrying for priests, and some other ideas, but for me the main question involves accepting Christ as one's personal Savior, and I know that Catholics are doing this every day.
I have a Baptist background with Pentecostal leanings, which means that I believe in the supernatural for today, in common with many Catholics. What would be the point of praying for lost souls here on earth, for example, if one didn't believe in supernaturally answered prayer? But, I sometimes think about how the KRS party appeared to be ill-fated in mission. They were apparently religious in some way, or at least the rune carver seemed to be, but there seemed also to be a possibility of elusive "divine provenance" for the ten Scandinavian souls who lost their lives here on earth in Minnesota on that cruel day in 1362, and I can't help wondering why. - Gunn
Gunn,
DeleteWhile I appreciate the offer, I have no interest in pursuing legal action against anyone. The more people ignore the debunker, the less relevant he becomes. I don't care about him, his followers, or his blog. If they have a question about one of the shows or my research, they can ask me directly here. However, like everyone else, they still have to play by the few rules I ask people to adhere to.
As far as the ideology of the Venus Families goes, their members within the orders only pretended to be Catholic; just as many Jews in Europe did during the various persecutions who would pretend to be Christians, but were really "Crypto-Jews."
It's a complicated story we hope to flesh out in upcoming shows. Stay tuned as there is more to come.
Hi Scott,
ReplyDeleteIn reference to your M symbol and Free Masonry,
I was a member of Sigma Phi Epsilon in college which was founded in 1901. Three of its founders were masons and without fully revealing, I can say our handshake consisted of locking hands in the M symbol
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteThat's very interesting and I would be just about anything the symbolism in the handshake isn't a coincidence... What do you think?
Scott,
ReplyDeleteThere seems to be some misconceptions about academic historians. We do use or own style of scientific methods. Not to be confused with scientific experimentation. Historians cannot duplicate a historical subject or event such as one could do in a laboratory. However, we do rely on fact based data that we can prove through different methodologies. Primary source comparison is an example of one such method. However, that does not mean that all academic historians ignore possibilities and probabilities. After all, storytelling and connecting the dots of history is what we do!
I am sure you know at least a few academically trained historians who do not agree with the status quo. There are many of us out there that challenge the institutional history on a daily bases. We encounter the same problems, and same closed doors as everyone else but we do it at the experience of promotions and peer recognition. I believe that we do it because we are like you and we are simply searching the truth and believe that what we do matters.
I hope I have not offend anyone but I felt compelled to defend my profession. Not all of us think the same way as those few at the top who seem to control how history is told. I simply ask that you take a moment before you condemn an entire profession based on the closed minds of a few.
Thank you for trying to unravel the truth. Keep up the good work..
Sean H.
Sean,
DeleteYour points are well taken and I appreciate your taking a moment to explain. I have voiced my concerns that have come through extensive direct experience. I stand behind those comments, but I might need to do a better job in making sure to be clear I am not talking about ALL academics.
My experiences has been with SOME academics, although I do have to say that in certain humanities disciplines the percentage of narrow thinkers is alarming high. I don't seem to have these problems with but a select few hard science types such as geologists, engineers, mathematicians, etc.
I do not advocate throwing all academics into one disappointing pot at all. I have made a point to single out the many diligent, open-minded academics I've met and worked with along the way. However, the fact is we have a long way to go to things where they need to be.
Mr. Wolter,
ReplyDeleteYour program and printed works (Hooked X and Akenaten) have been a tremendous pleasure to consume. Your research has encouraged my sons (15 & 12) and me to get off the couch and into the woods exploring in search of Southern Illinois’ possible ancient secrets. Heck, we went and bought metal detectors and everything. I have two things that I would like for you know.
First, I’m a Southern Baptist pastor with a terminal degree (read Evangelical conservative Christian with a doctorates in ministry) and I am fascinated with your research. The work you have done with the KRS, The Spirit Pond Runes, etc., is exceptionally well done. I whole-heartedly believe in pre-Columbian contact by Europeans in our not-so-distant past. As far as some of your conclusions, (Non-Divine Jesus, MM, etc.,), well, I do not believe that theory. . . but I am not angry at you because you do. I do read the Bible literally as the infallible, inerrant, and inspired Word of God. You do not and that is between you and God. I can appreciate your research and learn from your studies without having to agree with everything you believe. (Your citing Mr. Butler in another post gives me reason to believe that you are of a similar mind to me in this belief.) Truth is, you have never proclaimed yourself to be a Theologian . . . and that is cool. Just because I do not agree with your conclusions does not mean I have to belittle, slander, criticize, or label you as a heretic. Will I have you speak at my church on the Sacred Feminine? Uh, no. Would I come hear you speak at a local college? Heck to the yes! I am as much a geologist (not) as you are a theologian (not).
Secondly, at the end of the day I think much of what you do is like candy. Yes, candy. I am not demeaning your life’s work at all, sir. Please allow me to explain. There are some folks who like dark chocolate while others will turn their nose up at it. But those who cast a disgusted look at the dark chocolate will devour milk chocolate by the box full and never touch peanut brittle. The ones who eat peanut brittle may never touch chocolate and find it personally revolting. And then there are those who want nothing to do with candy whatsoever. These are the people that need our prayers (joke is implied.). Not everyone likes everything (Hooked X, Bigfoot, Custer’s Treasure, Arizona Artifacts, etc.) that you have put in the candy dish and that is okay. If you like the candy, eat it. If you try and do not like it, spit it out. If you do not like candy, leave the bowl alone so others can try some. At the end of the day I am going to believe and trust what I know (and have experienced) to be real. I am not going to get angry or mad because you believe in something I do not nor do I sense you are angry (or insensitive) to what I hold as sacred. As you say, “It’s all good.” But may I add one word? “It’s all good candy.”
Until The Whole World Hears,
Pastor Mike
Southern Illinois (Chester)
I absolutely loved your analogy, Pastor Mike! I have a gut feeling you are an excellent preacher of The Word!
DeleteIt is easier to find the Truth when we don't dismiss ideas and beliefs that we don't immediately agree with. I too don't always agree with Scott Wolters conclusions, but I admire his work a great deal! :D
Hi Scott:
ReplyDeleteI have a few questions about your Templar ideas that I'd like clarification on when you have the time. Thanks....
1. It has been suggested by you an others that the reason the Templars became so powerful so quickly was that they discovered something in the Holy Land that allowed them to "blackmail" or leverage the Pope. If this is true, wouldn't the church have already been aware of the Templar secret? In other words, why the need to torture Templar leadership in 1307 in an attempt to uncover secrets?
2. It seems strange to me that IF a Jesus bloodline actually exists, and IF that bloodline has been protected by Templars and their descendants for hundreds of years, and IF members of St. Clair family have held leadership roles in this process, then why doesn't Steve St. Clair know more about this story than you do? Why can't he or family members he's close with fill in some of the blanks?
3. If goddess worship is the ultimate goal of all involved in this conspiracy, and that goddess worship goes back all the way to ancient Egypt, then why the fascination with and the inclusion of Jesus at all? Wouldn't this secret pre-date Jesus by hundreds if not thousands of years?
4. If the hooked X is everything you claim it to be, then why are we only seeing the traditional hooked X on runestones in America? Why don't we see it anywhere in Europe? I think the Roman numeral you found in Portugal and the Mason's mark in Roslyn appear as different from the hooked X found on the KRS as a standard letter "t" does. How different does the character have to look before it ceases to be a hooked X at all?
5. If the KRS is a Templar land claim as you suggest, then why no mention of Templars at all in the text? For land claim purposes it would not matter if there was a coded message in the text when the obvious text itself only mentions Gotlanders and Norwegians. If the stone were ever to be found the Norwegians would have a stronger claim to the land than the Templars would. As an example of what I'm talking about, Columbus claimed the New World for Spain because he was sailing for Spain. He wouldn't have overtly claimed the land for England thinking that he could secretly claim it for Spain if he included a code of some kind within the claim.
6. If the hooked X is so important, what do the other rare runes found on the KRS mean? Do any of the other rare runes have coded meanings that might shed light on to your Templar ideas?
Regards,
Dillon
Dillon,
DeleteThese are good questions; here we go:
1. That is incorrect; the Cistercians (can't forget about them) and Templars became rich and powerful primarily through commerce. They were excellent business people with a workforce whose mantra was "Prayer and Work." They made a tremendous amount of money through farming, animal husbandry and manufacture of various products. The Templars had the ships to transport products long distances and backhaul for profit. It was all about we now call the "Free Enterprise System." You've likely heard of that.
They also had the "secret" in their back pocket to ensure the Church minded it's own business in these matters. It wasn't just about money on Friday the 13th, but it was a big part of it.
2. There are breaks in the chain as time goes on and not all family lines' knowledge gets passed on. Steve does have family information, but he has taken a skeptical view choosing instead to do his own research to vet out the claims. Together with what he already knew, he found additional evidence to convince him it was indeed true.
3. Yes, the secret of mono-theistic Dualism goes back to Akhenaten. Goddess veneration pre-dates his time. What the Venus Families have been trying to restore in humanity is balance.
4. The Hooked X symbol in all examples found both in America and Europe are the same. The slight variations found carved on stone verses written on paper are minimal. The meaning is what is important and is a consistent message.
5. The Hooked X is the mark of the Templars they could have proved belonged to only them if there had ever been a need. You have made what could be an erroneous assumption the inscription includes Norwegians. The word is "Norrmen" and maybe that's who they were. "Goths", "Normans" and "Norwegians" were all known to be Templars.
The claim was for the post put-down order signified by the Hooked X. Later as Freemasonry filled the void and the Venus Families placed new land claims for France who eventually ceded the land to their Masonic Brethren who finished the job.
6. Read my three books and I think you'll see there's many important messages within the KRS and other runic inscriptions.
Spurgeon,
ReplyDeleteNow that was great message; thank you. I love your analogy to candy and looks like I like just about every kind in the dish! I also appreciate your candor and tolerance of those with different views than yourself. Why can't more people be this way? That you understand I mean no offense to anyone with the controversial historical research we pursue is great; I wish more had the same attitude.
In the end, it is gratifying to know that despite our philosophical differences you can glean and benefit from many "pearls" in our work even if you don't agree with some of our conclusions. It's like the wisdom of knowing that even if you don't like a lot of the candy in the dish, you know there's some good stuff in there if you take the time to look around.
I hope you don't mind if I use your "candy" analogy?
Mr. Wolter,
ReplyDeleteYou are free to use the "candy" analogy. I am sure it is not original to me. After all, " . . . there is nothing new under the sun" (Ecc. 1.9).
Pastor Mike
Mr. Wolter -
ReplyDeleteIn the season finale which aired Staurday night you explained how the X was the perfect letter for the Tempalrs to use to pass along their secret because the bottom part of the letter ( ^) represeted Jesus and the top part of the letter (v) represented Mary Magdalene (the chalice).
Question: It seems to me that there are at least a couple of ways that the Templars could have modified of "hooked" the X to symbolize their secret yet they chose a modification/addition which creates a second "v" (chalice). While any answer would be speclation (because to have any support in fact for an answer would prove the theory), what do you thnk of the suggestion that the Templars "hooked" the X in that specific way because the child born to Jesus and Mary Magdalene was a daughter?
I enjoy your show.
G. Elliott
South Carolina
G. Elliot,
ReplyDeleteYou have the symbolism correct; the little "v" represents the child in the womb of MM and according to the legends that daughter's name was Sarah.
Hello Scott,
ReplyDeleteYour show is awesome. I found an amazing mystery that I would like to bring to your attention. In 1978, the Canadian Automobile Association published a book call "The Heritage of Canada." On page 13 they write:
"Two pieces of limestone discovered in the early 1700s near Sherbrooke, Quebec, are said to bear Libyan inscriptions-carved perhaps by members of an expedition that sailed up the St.Lawrence and St. Francis rivers some 500 hundred years before Christ. The inscriptions have been deciphered: "Thus far our expedition traveled in service of our revered Lord Hiram to conquer land." and "This is the record of Hanta who attained the great river and left these words cut on stone."
The book then goes on to say on page 21. "Sherbrooke Quebec: Inscriptions on two pieces of limestone preserved at the Seminaire de Sherbrooke may have been made by pre-viking era explorers of this area."
The two question are: where are the stones today and are they authentic?
The Canadian Automobile Association. It must be legit!
DeleteAnonymous,
ReplyDeleteThis is very interesting and I know just the person in Canada to do a little snooping on this. If we do follow up on this lead and find something, I'll have to buy you dinner!
If you are interested in the Templars and what they may have done with artifacts you should do some looking into the Hawaiian Island by the name of Ni'ihau. It was purchased by the Sinclair family in 1864. The descendants of the Sinclair family have steadfastly refused to allow anyone except direct descendants of families living on Ni'ihau to be on Ni'ihau.
ReplyDeleteThe island does not have phone service or electricity except for a few small generators and there are only about 150-200 people on the island of 46,000 acres.
Hi Scott,
ReplyDeleteI regularly enjoy your show. I am skeptical of some of your findings, but I remain open minded. In your last program in which you discovered a hooked X in the Templar church in Tomar, Portugal, what caused you to arrive at the assessment that the figure is a hooked X? In looking at the photographs you have posted it appears to me to be a partial seriffed X with both the upper right arm and lower left arm bearing the same stylized serif at the end of said arms…could these simply be stylized decorative elements for the X which is indicating a date or figure? I am most certainly not expert at viewing inscriptions, but I do have a trained artistic eye, and the hooked X as I can view it per your photographs certainly has the appearance of stylized writing style rather than the hooked Runic inscription you have previously allowed us to view. After watching your programs, I went back to examine the numerous rock inscription photos I have taken over the years. In one photo I discovered what appears to be a hooked X inside a carved humanoid figure. I took the photo a number of years ago in the area of very southeastern Colorado. I hesitate to send a photograph until I get the opportunity to reexamine the carving on site to make sure the hooked X I see in the photograph is not an illusion caused by weathering or poor camera lighting. The inscription is in an area where numerous oggham style inscriptions can be found, as well as five pointed "star" incsriptions I interpret to have something to do with astronomical observations. A number of the oggham style inscriptions in this part of the country were translated by Fell , which according to him, had high levels of reliability when translated into Old Gaelic, and in some instances a Libyan dialect.
I am astounded at the vitriolic criticism that is leveled at you and your work. As I said, I either disagree with or don't understand many of your findings, but I still believe it important work. To always question is the basis of scientific inquiry, to hatefully deny or ridicule the quest for answers, no matter how frivolous the quest may seem, is a destructive practice. I suppose with the area of study you have chosen, it comes with the territory…that said, stand tall and keep up the good work!
There are numerous academic studies questioning Mr. Wolter's conclusions, but he will not allow links to appear on his blog for same.
DeleteI will not allow the links because they are not academic nor are not legitimate. This "research" was designed simply to further muddy the already murky water. But then, you already know that.
DeleteI'll tell you what I will do in a month or two. I will write a blog about this garbage research explaining it in it's full context. I will also make a stipulation that whoever comments on the blog has to have a verified identity. The reason is because people like you could be the very one's dumping the mud.
If you truly want transparency, shouldn't it cut both ways?
The Hooked X in Portugal certainly is decorative with a flourished style to the hook.
DeleteThere actually was another Hooked X character in a different inscription at the same church that had similar flourishing. Although they appear to have been made at the same time (1492) the differences were, what I'm calling the "real" Hooked X, was a stand alone Roman numeral ten verses the other that was an alphabetic character within a word.
The second difference was the upper right arm of the "X" continued on creating a clearly discernible "v" diagnostic of the symbol. The other example did not. While the new Hooked X is certainly stylized as other known examples are, such as the Copiale Cipher Hooked X, the added bonus of the association with the Knights Templar make it a conclusive case for me.
I will be brutally honest in regard to why I post criticism on your blog anonymously. Like it or not, your views attract white supremacists and holocaust deniers, as well as other assorted nuts and lunatics. As I am not a public figure, I do not wish for their attention.
DeleteAnonymous,
DeleteWith all due respect, that is a copout. If you want to have your voice heard, then stand up and put your name behind it. Idiots who think they can glom onto my work and somehow twist it into something they think supports their distorted views of the world will do it regardless of whatever anybody says. I don't give them attention and neither should you; ignore them.
Pardon the trite old phrase, but If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Hi Scott,
ReplyDeleteI enjoy your show a lot and the two Templar episode reminded me of a book by Otto Rahn, who wrote “Crusade Against the Grail.” You may have read this, but if not I highly recommend it. It draws a tenuous link between the Cathars of the Occitan and the Templars, and made me wonder that if they shared a similar history perhaps they both also had the same knowledge of what was in the Temple in Jerusalem, and shared that as well. Even more interestingly, on page 179, Rahn speaks of an individual who, during the street violence in revolutionary France made it a point to call out priests in revenge for both the Albigenisian crusade and the destruction of De Molay and the Templars. He also stuck his hands in the blood of the executed royals and said the same about them. I don’t know if this person was a Freemason or not, as Rahn doesn’t say, but at the very least it shows that someone was aware of the nobility’s and the church’s complicity in both these actions in the late 18th century and the revolution was, among other things, a revenge for it. This was before much was known academically about this subject. This is pretty interesting as it could actually provide a direct link from the Cathars/Templars to the Freemasons. Everyone talks about the “gap” in centuries, but this tidbit could close that. Hope you find this as interesting a link as I did. Keep up the good work!
I have read Otto Rahn's book and I loved it. The link between the Cathar's and the Templar's is both groups shared ideological similarities and many were Venus Family members.
DeleteThe example of one individual's hatred toward the oppression and tyranny of the monarchies of Europe and the Roman Catholic Church reflects the attitude of the Venus Families. They were behind the founding of the Cistercians and Knights Templar and continued to support the leadership of the Masonic orders that were instrumental in the founding of the what Francis Bacon called, "The New Atlantis," or"The New Jerusalem." That would be the country we now live in that embraces the ideals of freedom the Venus Families fought so hard for in Europe.
Rahn was a terrific writer who really understood his subject matter. It looks like I am going to have to check out information on the Venus families! Any recommendations? Sounds like they are even more proof the Masons were connected to the Templars, either directly or ideally. Thanks, Scott!
DeleteIt's sad how he was so disgusted by the Nazi's and died so tragically.
DeleteI always tell people who to learn more about the Venus Families, besides my own books, is to read the works of Alan Butler. I would start with, "The Goddess, the Grail, and the Lodge." "Sheep" and "The Virgin and the Pentacle" are great too. He's written many really good books on this subject matter.
Scott,
ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed these last two episodes and you certainly provide some very interesting information. Over the last 15 years or so I had started studying more about history of our country when I learned that I had ancestors that came over on the Mayflower, a gentleman named Francis Cooke and his son, John. Being from Ohio, I of course know about the great serpent mound and as my family travelled a lot I learned about places like Mesa Verde. You should really visit there if you haven't already. Being a computer geek with over 30 years in the business, my logical mind starts to kick in when I read and research history. More times than not, the things that academics describe about earlier cultures just don't logically match up with reality. I'm a big believer that ancient man has shown time and again that he was capable of doing a lot of things that we don't believe are possible such as the Chinese visiting America. It logically makes sense because they could travel not too far from shore and land as needed to stock up on supplies. Take that along with multiple cultures and they knowledge of the stars, well long sea voyages were more than possible.
Did you know that the one of the descriptions of Quetzalcoatl who was a creator god of the Aztecs or as Kukulkan for the Mayan was described as being white and having a beard? Can you say an early Christian Monk? The Mayans were not able to grow beards.
Facts are stubborn things.
I truly believe that there is so much more going on with this country than we may never know. Not only our history but take a look at our current situation financially. While many EU members are panicking about Greece's budget issues, you simply don't hear as much about our current amount of debt and other countries jumping up and down screaming about us getting our act together. What is it that our government knows that the public doesn't???
I hope you have a season 4. Continued good luck and much success,
Karl
Karl,
DeleteIf you're not already familiar, I'd suggest taking a look at the "Mayan Calendar Wheel". There are two bearded men at the bottom.
Best regards,
Anthony
Scott,
ReplyDeleteNow that season 3 is over, do you have plans to blog regularly here? If so, what plans do you have for content of blogs and how often you might find the time to post those here?
I would love to read updates from previous seasons' episodes contents!
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ReplyDeleteEveryone knows that the Templars DID NOT magically morph into the Freemasons 400 years after they were dissolved, they were merged into the Knights Hospitaller of St. John (modern day Knights of Malta).
ReplyDeleteEveryone? I agree with the "magically" part, but the story is a lot more complicated than that. You're missing out on the ideology part. The Templar/Cistercian/Venus Families leadership was not Catholic, that's where the separation is and where Freemasonry comes in.
DeleteJenn,
ReplyDeleteI will continue to blog when I have time. I've been deluged since the last show aired and fallen behind in my responses. This blogging thing takes a ton of time, but I enjoy it and enjoy connecting with people who watch the show.
I'm hoping you'll see updates on places we've been to and artifacts we've examined on future shows. However, even if we don't get significant new information onto the show, I'll certainly keep people updated here.
Thank you, Scott!
DeleteI can imagine how much time is taken out of your schedule to maintain this blog, and I for one truly appreciate your efforts here to connect with your many fans! We love hearing of your many adventures! :D
Hey Scott,
ReplyDeleteCool last episode, it certainly went hand in hand with your book. About the Pentagon in the center of the 5 pointed star of Venus. Isn't it ironic that your show essentially ended with that pentagon and your nearly started at the Pentagon after the alleged jet hit it? Just saying.
Brian
Brian,
DeleteWhat hit the Pentagon was not an "alleged" jet, it was a real jet. I have the photos that prove it. Sometime you should hear my lecture about the work I did there. I have no problem with people being skeptical about what happened on 9-11. I don't know all that happened at Ground Zero, but I do know what happened at the Pentagon.
Yes, every time I see a pentagon-shaped anything, I think about my days there after the attacks.
Thanks for the clarification. It's easy to get sucked into the propaganda of conspiracy because you never know. FYI I sent you an email a long while back that your wife got. She responded with intrigue. It was about a mansion type home shaped as an X on the west coast of England. The place is seriously hundreds of feet from where they recently found the super ancient foot prints on the beach. The town has a lot of Templar and The Oddfellows history too. Maybe there's a connection, maybe not. But it would make for a pretty stinking cool episode of AU.
DeleteBrian
my bad, dang Sam Adams...East Coast of England
DeleteAlso, is the hooked X symbol trademarked? I was thinking of using it as a symbol in a screenplay I'm writing...perhaps the character that investigates the X in the movie can actually be you, played by you. That would be cool. The script is pretty good so far too.
ReplyDeleteBrian
Brian,
DeleteThe "Hooked X" is trademarked which is why your saw the trademark icon. It's funny you mention a screenplay as I've been contacted by a few people who are working on a movie based on our Hooked X research.
While it would be fun to be in a movie like this, It would bode well for any director to get a real actor to play my part.
Tom Hanks ????
DeleteJim Carrey????
DeleteThought so but had to ask. O.k., this is maybe because I'm working on my second Sam Adams, but after I read the "it would bode well for any director to get a real actor," I LOL so loud my wife and kids came and read the post...they didn't get it. Anyways, if I do write you into the script and get a producer/director that is well-known, then I'll contact you again...you may change your mind when the cash register opens. Your part would be pretty much what we see on t.v., you being yourself. And again, thanks for your quick response and hard work, as you may not know how much you've changed the history books thus far, heck I would bet more than you can even fathom.
DeleteBrian
Thanks Brian; I do appreciate you think our work is worthy.
DeleteA Sam Adams sounds good right now...
Hey Scott,
ReplyDeleteAt the end of the season 3 finale you plotted the map as usual and tho I know you were showing us a hooked X across the U.S., my first thought was that one more site to the east could make that a Cross of Lorraine. Any chance that either of those symbols is a derivitive of the other?
Another question is, is it possible the grail is both the bloodline and a Chalice? Considering the Templars/Masons love of secrecy and misdirection- I'm wondering if the Chalice is actually and idea planted by them to help hide the idea of a bloodline. Maybe the cup exists, be it Christ's or not, and for centuries people have been chasing the wrong tail.
Oh, and I noticed that in the Last Supper Mary's fingers are laced, but the middle and ring fingers on the right hand are together- she's flashing the "M" sign too.
Thanks Scott!
Lee.
Lee,
DeleteThe Hooked X is also another version of the Cross of Loraine. The Holy Grail could absolutely be the bloodline and a cup or Chalice; why not? Double meanings are a great way to allow plausible deniability at a time when even the smallest bit of knowledge meant life or death.
I know what you do is not an easy job, but I can tell you that my lady Abbie and I are thankful for people like you who work so hard to bring this kind of programming into our homes! It really is something that ignites the imagination!
DeleteLee,
Delete"Nothing worthwhile comes easy" is the old saying that probably applies here...
It was the Super Bowl party that put you behind on the blog! ;-)
ReplyDeleteSeriously though, the fact that you keep this blog running is a testament to your passion and desire to shake up the status quo. I think too many Americans suffer from an inability to be receptive to new ideas because they've become intellectually apathetic (as opposed to unintelligent which is different), and therefore do not recognize the need to shake things up. It takes courage to do what you do publicly and you seem to take the onslaught of worthless criticism in stride, and handle it professionally. It also takes a certain person with a genuine passion to take our country's history into a new era (and I don't mean a geological era).
Kudos to you, Janet, H2, and all the crew.
At the risk of sounding like a cheeseball.......may the force be with you.
SG,
DeleteWe did have a fun party and it was a Hell of game wasn't it?
Thank you for the kind words of support. If this work wasn't important and worthwhile, then we wouldn't have so many people worked up. That's a good thing. In time, some of them will come around.
SG,
ReplyDeleteIt was a Hell of a party and a Hell of game wasn't it?
Thank you for the kind words of support. It this work wasn't important and worthwhile, then we wouldn't have so many people worked up. That's a good thing. In time, some of them will come around.
Hello Scott,
ReplyDeleteI've been reading the latest posts, and I too, am very appreciative for the platform to share ideas. If you don't know, I'm the "Anthony" who sent you pictures of a "Hooked X" coin, stylized Egyptian "Hooked X" and Mona Lisa's "dirty secret". I came across the coin years before I became aware of your work. As I stated in my first email to you, I don't belong to any cult, religion, special interest group, or any institution. I'm just me. I've seen religion as personified astronomy for quite some time, and have been able to put two and two together with some symbolism. Your work with the "Hooked X" came along when, I was looking into the symbolism on the coin I sent photos of. I choose to post anonymously because, I have a rare last name, and am extremely easy to find. I've already come under attack, and lost an email account to..."folks who didn't like me talking about the personified astronomy in their religious texts". I've a more apt description but, it's inappropriate. I don't know what they expected, while posting their religious rants on Science articles. My only intention is to kindle the Light, like so many did for me.
Best regards,
Anthony
BTW-I have to ask. Have you read, or are you familiar with "Uriels Machine"(Knight, Lomas)?
Anthony,
ReplyDeleteI have read Uriel's Machine, but it's been a long time. Great stuff in there. That the Bible and other religious texts are largely allegorical stories of the interaction of the heavenly bodies is a certainty. They were written for only the initiated to understand.
You can feel free to post whatever you want here within reason. Nobody is going to attack you or anybody else here with religious rants. I won't allow it.
Jacob took a route from Beersheba to Harran.He would have taken a direct route. Now according to the information he stopped on his way to sleep.I don't know how old he might have been but you couold probably make 15 miles a day.Maybe ten. I don't know where they took your samples from in Israel as to the stone he was supposed to lay down on but you need to take samples about every ten to fifteen miles from Beerrsheba to Harran then compare the sand stone.I just watched your show today on History about the Ark maybe in America and I did some looking. So you might want to recheck new samples from Beersheba to Harran.Thank you for your time. John
ReplyDeleteJESUS was born through the line of David. Mary was that line.Thank you.
ReplyDeleteJohn,
ReplyDeleteIf we get a chance to look at more samples from Jerusalem I certainly will. The sample we looked at was where our guest thought his rock came from and, unfortunately, it didn't match at all.