Saturday, November 2, 2019

America Unearthed, Season 4, Episode 2: Alien Artifacts

"Alien Artifacts" was one of my favorite episodes of the season for a number of reasons.  Not the least of which was the incredible C-14 dates on the adhesive used to make some of the artifacts.  Those mind-boggling dates beg the obvious question: Are they really that old or did someone figure out a way to make a glue that dates to eight thousand years before present and older!  In pondering this question in the days after we filmed that final scene, I have come up with possible ways to make a glue that would date that far back and I hope to have the opportunity to test my idea.  Setting the artifacts might not be as old as the testing says, what if they really are that old?  If so, then we have to seriously consider the possibility that ancient cultures in MesoAmerica did interact with extraterrestrial beings as my friend Giorgio Tsoukalos of "Ancient Aliens" fame has been telling us for the past two decades.  I've never given the idea aliens visiting us from other planets a serious thought.  That is, until now...  I'm not ready to jump on the bandwagon yet, but until we get to the bottom of how old these artifacts really are, who made them, and if the obvious reference to aliens, spaceships and the interaction of apparent aliens with early native cultures, we must maintain an open mind to these possibilities.  Irronically, the week before the episode aired, curious articles like this one appeared on news feeds: https://www.yahoo.com/news/navy-ufos-reporting-guidelines-updated-202515828.html   Was this a coincidence, or something else?  What do you think about these artifacts possibly being many thousands of years old?


Brendon Harris (left), Brandon Bouley (middle) and Janey Klebe (right with flashlight), prepare to film a scene inside a large circular cave with numerous interesting carvings deep in the jungle near Veracruz, Mexico.   


Three "alien" artifacts the JAC Detectors showed me they said they found in the cave we explored in the jungle.  The one on the lower right was clearly a fake with the cleverly carved letters "UFO".  The one on the left has a phallic shape with amateur-looking carvings that included marks consistent with being made with a hand held rotary tool. 


Thankfully, this species was NOT poisonous!


Just east of Mexico City we drove by the active volcano spewing steam into the atmosphere as we made our way to Veracruz to meet with the JAC Detectors.


Mark Russell watches as I examine one of his alien artifacts in my laboratory for areas with glue to test for age using the Carbon-14 method.


The front side of the artifact tested.


The back side of the artifact tested.


Janet Wolter and executive producer of America Unearthed, Andy Awes, behind the scenes during filming of the "Alien Artifacts" lab scenes.


This artifact of an elongated head that looks like an aliens is covered with scenes that include spaceships,  planets, designs and numerous inlays of stone.  This glue used in this artifact was C-14 tested and the result was 8620 years before present. 

77 comments:

  1. Hi Dawn,

    Glad you enjoyed the episode; it is one of my favorites this season. While I don't believe we have proven beyond a doubt the existence of aliens and their interaction with humans, my eyes have been opened wide to the possibility. We have more work to do in this regard and I will do it.

    I am happy to help bring information to the masses through the show to learn about things I find so interesting. Thanks for sending me a note.

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  2. Great episode Scott! I have a question about a previous episode that premiered before you started the blog, if you don’t mind, regarding the Georgia Guidestones. Since you filmed the episode there was a documentary made that pretty much definitely solved the identity of RC Christian.

    They interviewed Wyatt Martin and, unlike yourself, took advantage and tricked him. I don’t approve of their methods, but he showed them letters from RC in a briefcase and they zoomed the camera on his letters and got an address. RC Christian was an Iowa physician Herbert Kerster, with ties to many other prominent people who believe in population control through eugenics. His “group” of donors of the monument are reported to have big ties in one case with the KKK, and his anonymity might be in part to his big belief in birth control over his catholic fate. Besides the address, his friends and obituaries mentioned he had the same beliefs as the Guidestones, and his friend was the publisher of the ghost written Guidestones book.

    For some reason this finding hasn’t gained much attention. A Wikipedia editor, whom I later found out has a vendetta against you, aggressively has edited any mention in the Georgia Guidestone page and recent articles still talk about this being a mystery. The filmmakers aren’t the biggest, but the evidence is pretty irrefutable, even if they got it in a dirty way.

    Have you heard about this since the episode, what do you make of RC Christian being a racist eugenics supporter with rich friends rather than apart of the NWO, and why hasn’t this not gained any traction?

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    1. Zack,

      Yes, I am aware of this person and I think there is a good chance RC could be him. I also don't agree with their deceptive methods. People need to respect people's privacy and that he word was his bond. Not many like that anymore.

      Wiki is not the place to go for reliable information with regard to anything controversial. Yes, they have sanitized my name with regard to any of my work, most notably on the Kensington Rune Stone page, that challenges the current historical narrative. I am not concerned as the truth will be revealed in the end.

      As to RC's true identity, I'm not sure what to think. Until we have a 100% positive identification we have to be careful not to draw final conclusion. The tenants on the Guide Stones seem inconsistent with a white racist, but I suppose it's possible.

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    2. Scott,

      One can be a eugenicist without being a white racist; after all, one of the language on the Guidestones is Swahili, the lingua franca of East Africaj and the goto language for "back to Africa" black Americans (e.g. Kwanzaa).

      AS for Wikipedia, what if I told you that they took down the page on you because you threatened to sue them? Of course they're careful in what they say about you and your ideas.

      Keep up the good work, and
      Jambo!

      Val Miller

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    3. The Georgia Guidestones is an incomplete monument. The current structure is only the center cluster. Someone needs to complete the structure by adding the lunar alignments. Think "Aubrey Holes".

      I used to put a lot of stock into prehistoric civilizations. Mainly due to the high level of astronomy, it seemed likely that at least a high-level astronomer priesthood had survived a human learning, Reset Event. Understanding the true purpose of the Guidestones, I realized no one Priesthood needed to survive. Monuments with, or without instructions, and the abilities of the human mind are all that is needed. When one surviving group understands the instructions, they have obtained absolute power, and the ability to restart civilization. I wonder if, the Etruscans left instructions for their augmentation of Stonehenge???

      If the tradition of building these structures holds, there should be another one somewhere else.

      Anthony Warren

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    4. Val,

      I did threaten to sue them for posting false information about me on the page. I don't care if I have a "Wiki" page, especially if it's intentionally filled with B.S. Further, they are not careful about what they say about me or my work, they simply don't list it. The best example is the Kensington Rune Stone page. Not one word about any aspect of my work is listed nor are any of the three books, soon to be four, are listed as sources. However, what is listed on teh page is Professor Emeritus Alice Beck Kehoe's 2005 book that concludes Dick Nielsen and I proved the KRS was an authentic medieval artifact in our book, The Kensington Rune Stone: Compelling New Evidence.

      The obvious question is why?

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    5. The obvious answer is "Why should we even mention someone who threatened to sue us?"

      It's not rocket science.

      Val

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    6. Val,

      No, the obvious answer is Wikipedia should be a place where people can go to get legitimate, accurate information. If not, they should shut it down.

      You're right, it isn't rocket science.

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    7. Any organization (TV or internet) that claims to be fact based or make claims to be educational, should be careful as to what they print/say and should be proud of the facts they report, regardless of a threat to be sued. Everyone should report the facts regardless of personal feelings or differences in opinions. Facts hold up in court and BS get removed.

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    8. Agreed,

      The threat to sue was because they were posting blatant B.S. It should never have come to that, and it wouldn't have had Wiki been a legitimate entity in the first place. Sadly, it has earned the reputation of not being a reliable source of information.

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  3. Thanks for doing this series and for being willing to show how there are so many untold facts in our and the world's history. After I watch an episode I find myself researching things you mention on the shows. Thanks again for sharing your findings with us

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    1. Jim,

      This is one of the things I hoped people would be inspired to do; learn more about something that interests them. It's one of the things that makes life grand.

      Thanks for sending me a note.

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  4. I really enjoyed this show and I find the whole topic very interesting. I went to college at the Pennsylvania State University for General Science with an emphasis in Mathematics (the Eberly College of Science) and I am encouraged that you are using your science knowledge to make such an entertaining and informative show. I also am interested in the History Channel's Ancient Aliens show and I have done quite a bit of reading of your books as well as the books of Zecharia Sitchens (which a large part of the show seems to be based on) and I find the reading to be fascinating. I otherwise might have never heard of your books or developed an interest in this topic. I think it is really important to keep an open mind and learn about these theories as silly as some of them may seem at first, because closing out those ideas and information could be a tremendous mistake. Keep up the great work Scott and I look forward to continue watching your series on the Travel Channel. -Steve M

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    1. Steve,

      Glad you're enjoying the shows and learning new things as you go. That's how you grow. Stay tuned; more good stuff coming!

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  5. Scott,
    How sure are you that the adhesive doesn't have any petroleum based components?
    I think confirming the age depends on identifying what the adhesive is made of. Beyond just the elemental composition.

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    1. Hans,

      We don't know anything yet about the adhesives composition yet, but we will. Hydrocarbons can be determined and we'll keep an eye open for them. I have a few ideas on how to do this and we'll see what happens; stay tuned!

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  6. I had given some dire news on climate, but I want to report that Mount Sinabung had a massive eruption today that penetrated into the stratosphere. We know that Sinabung erupts with vast quantities of sulfur dioxide and that sulfur will react with water vapor creating aerosols that reflect radiation into space. With the natural updraft, we should expect a nice cooling as dispersion of these aerosols takes about 3 weeks. Fantastic news.

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    1. Anthony,

      Do you have a link to the story? I heard nothing about it?

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    2. I saw a few headlines that mentioned the eruption blasting 10 miles into the stratosphere. That's sufficient for a cooling effect...I'm guessing 0.2 C based on the 91 Pinatubo eruption. I didn't mean to get off topic here. I told my good friend, Dr. Guy McPherson, about your show. I told him about your quest for truth because I knew that he would respect that. He said he might check out the show. Have a fantastic day. I'll look for the next episode.

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    3. Anthony,

      No problem getting a little off topic. Anything that has a positive effect on the environment is relevant anytime. Let's hope we humans wake up and start taking better care of our home, planet earth.

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  7. After watching this episode, I have a question. The orginal artifact came from the private antiquities trade and the stuff on location was with self described treasure hunters. Are you concerned that using these kind of sources encourage two things: 1) if they are real they are from destroying ancient sites, often graves, and stopping the careful archeological examination of the site that could prove the artifacts and establish context or 2) they are modern facts and gives people an economic incentive to make more and gives the opponents of controversial theories easy examples to discredit anything counter to the accepted narrative?

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    1. Corey1971,

      The big problem in Mexico is in many ways it’s the wild west, people do whatever they want without worrying about consequences. I am very concerned that if they are authentic artifacts all archaeological context is lost; if not authentic, then nobody cares. The government seems to have no interest in these artifacts and apparently, have deemed them fakes. I’m hopeful to get to the bottom of these incredible dates. If they vet out, then maybe we can get the government, and academia, to take the artifacts and the sites where they came from seriously.

      If they are fakes, then they are simply creative pieces of art and there is no law against making art pieces and selling them as long as they aren’t presented as authentic artifacts. To my knowledge, that has not been the case.

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  8. Scott,

    What's your opinion on the megalithic stones of Peru, Bolivia, Egypt, etc? I'm just learning about them and I'm amazed. I don't know of any tools today, that could accomplish that. What are your thoughts?

    Mike

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    1. Mike,

      My opinion is these sites are likely much older than anyone thinks. I think I need to take a closer look at these sites!

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  9. Hello Scott,
    They are being sold as authentic. For as much as $65,000.

    https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Ancient-Pre-Columbian-Ojuelos-de-Jalisco-Alien-Axe-Black-Marble-FINE-CARVING/123671905199?hash=item1ccb6b83af:g:A54AAOSwVehcermh

    I have to say I think they are obvious fakes, they have found a way to produce the "glue" using ancient matter to rig the C 14 tests and are using the tests as de facto certificates of authenticity.
    My two cents worth anyway.

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    1. Fred,

      I'm skeptical of these artifacts too. However, they deserve a fair hearing and I want to know how that glue could be faked if that is indeed the case. We'll see...

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    2. If you check "Pinterest" you can find many similar types of "Alien artifacts"

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    3. Kent,

      You are correct that all kinds of these artifacts are showing up on-line. I'm sure a good many of them are modern and remains to be seen if some are old and authentic. We still have a lot of work to do to get to the bottom of this one!

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  10. "there is no law against making art pieces and selling them as long as they aren’t presented as authentic artifacts. To my knowledge, that has not been the case."
    So, you flew down there a had a whole show knowing in advance they were fakes?

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    1. Bill,

      This comment doesn’t make any sense. No, we didn’t go down there knowing anything about these artifacts; the whole point in going to Veracruz was to try and figure out what those artifacts were. As you saw, we figured out they were indeed fakes. With regard to Mark Russell’s artifact, we were able to replicate the very old C-14 date of the glue. The question now is, does this mean the artifact is indeed that old or was the glue somehow faked?

      Come on man; you can do better than posting a comment like this.

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    2. "Come on man; you can do better than posting a comment like this."
      Sadly, I'd like to reply with "Come on man; you can do better than producing a show like this."

      Seriously, I found some of your first seasons shows entertaining and like the travel aspect. BUt so far this season I am disappointed.

      E1 - Vikings in the Desert: No conclusions or evidence of anything. Did you read about the mining company that abandoned a ship they were transporting across the desert?

      E2 Alien Artifacts: What did you reveal? Some guys are selling fake stuff. No evidence or aliens or artifacts for that matter.

      #3 Cave of Secrets: Again, zero proof of anything. Could have been a well or root cellar or a "secret" base for aliens for all we know. No conclusions.

      #4 THe Ripper Unmasked: Come on, you weren't even convincing that Doyle was responsible nor did you cover any of the other possibilities other than to say "100's of people were on a list of suspects". Even you said the surgery thing didn't prove or disprove anything. Could have been a 5 minute show. The carving in the road? Come on, have you wandered around London? Thousands of them on every street. They don't "point" to the Freemason lodge or anything else.

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    3. Bill,

      Sorry if I hurt your feelings and made you feel like you had to go on the offensive. Let’s look at your comments.

      E1 – Maybe you should watch the episode again; from the very start we concluded through scientific testing, and talking with a Viking era scholar, the artifacts were authentic. ‘Conclusion’ through ‘evidence.’ The ship we looked for was reportedly a Viking era ship, not a modern ship. I thought it was a very cool episode that admittedly, we could not draw a definitive conclusion. That happens sometimes.

      E2 – Yes, we debunked one group of artifacts which I thought was pretty cool. The second group contains adhesive with C-14 dates of up 9200 years BCE. If you don’t find that incredible, I don't know what you want. That is simply amazing and demands further investigation. Amazing episode IMHO whether you liked it or not.

      E3 – You apparently missed the stone and mortar work at the entrance of the cave which was also surrounded by building to keep private the rituals of the KGE. That is super cool to most people. The possibility it could also have been used as a temporary shelter for the underground railroad is also super interesting and served as an opportunity to teach people about a dark part of our nation’s history. That you can’t find that interesting and entertaining is truly unfortunate.

      E4 – I can’t talk about an episode that hasn't aired yet. However, I do agree the carvings on the curb stones did not further the investigation in a meaningful way. However, this episode might be one of the best. Again, that you didn’t find it entertaining and educational is unfortunate.

      Guess you’re just one of those "cup is half empty" guys?

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    4. Scott,
      I appreciate your reply. Maybe I am a half empty type. I don't know.

      I guess my issue can be generalized as wanting something concrete (get the pun) to come out of watching an hour shows that perports to rewrite history.

      The cave for example, could have been used for a thousand things, or something inocuous. No real "secret" there. Ripper "unmasked", sure, investigating one of a hundred theories that has been published for decades, not exactly unmasking.

      I do find your show interesting and entertaining but it is billed as being more serious than a simple adventure / travel show.

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    5. Bill,

      The pun was good and while we don't make history changing discoveries with every episode, I would argue we bring forth more new facts and truths than most other shows. The Kensington Rune Stone and the far reaching implications behind it are just one example.

      Enjoy the show and feel free to comment if so inclined. All good!

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  11. Scott ever heard of the olmecs first tribe to come to middle America

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    1. Brettany,

      Of course, the culture who carved the giant heads were discussed at the end of the "Alien Artifacts" episode. It wasn't them who made those artifact; if they are real.

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    2. They sure do look allot alike to me

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  12. Hi Mr Wolter !! I'm french.....i have question ....did you hear the discovery about the mummies of Nazca?....this is a very interresting discovery with serious researches & Results > DNA analysis. C14..HD Scannner photos of the bodies & other ones are availables....differents laboratories around the world have worked on the samcles provided by the Inkari cusco Institute based in Peru...and the results are coherents & give a big possibility that this discovery is not a fake or hoax ! Are you aware about this discovery ?? thanx Stephan

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    1. Stephan,

      I have heard about the Nazca mummies and would love to research them. It's a matter of time for as I have a lot on my plate at the moment. However, if given the chance to visit Peru I'll jump at it!

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  13. I'm in contact with Thierry Jamin because i'm on the french private official forum ....Thierry Jamin is the french archaeologist & the Manager of Inkari Cusco in charge of this discovery.....we have a lot of interresting resuls very serious (scientific investigations & analysis) >>> see by yourself : (English site ) https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/ ....Let me know if you are interrested to be in touch with the team !Stephan

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  14. looking forward to the Light. See you tonight on TRVL. Be well, do good. WB Richard

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  15. Just watched a different show that sent a team to the same cave. They just looked at the images without really examining them and said they were from a ancient civilization that make contact with aliens. I think they're just saying what they think people want to hear. Of course the whole show is based on aliens

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    1. Jim,

      I heard there was another show that went to the same cave in Veracruz. I haven't watched it, but if they said it was ancient I'd be surprised.

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    2. They took one look and said it was ancient. A lot of the carvings had been vandalized where people are stealing them and saleing them as alien rocks.

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    3. Jim,

      Those carvings are NOT ancient. However, now that you mention it, I remember seeing what looked like vandalism of the carvings deepest inside the cave. It's still a shame to destroy any carvings even if they are modern.

      BTW, what criteria or evidence did they present to draw their conclusion the carvings were ancient? Let me guess, they didn't; they simply proclaimed them to be old. Am I right?

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  16. They didn't do any kind of examination. They talked to a local guide and as they looked at the carvings they said they were definate proof of a early civilization and that they had contact with aliens.The only thing they had with them was flashlights

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  17. Hi Scott, I liked the show very much but I am intrigued that
    the most interesting artifact, the one that was examined by
    two independent laboratories, does not seem to appear anywhere
    in this blog. Can you post it please?
    Thanks,
    Mark

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    1. Thank you so much Scott. What I can think of is take
      it to the Smithsonian. Once it gets certified History
      has definitely changed. Moreover someone will have
      to come up with a good explanation of why, thousands
      of years ago, man was already drawing flying saucers.
      I can clearly see one on it unless that's some type
      of sombrero the ancient Mexicans used:-)
      Thanks again.
      Regards,
      Mark

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  18. Please tell us more since many people are not well educated on the process. Who collected the sample for C-14 testing and what lab conducted the test? Was only one sample tested?

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    1. Gene,

      Did you watch the episode? All these questions are answered.

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    2. No I didn't. That's why I am asking here. Since you are revisiting this topic it shouldn't be too much to ask for you to revisit the topic in a little more depth. Thanks.

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    3. Gene,

      The adhesive used to adhere the stone inserts to the artifact was tested twice; the first sample collected and tested by a lab technician at the University of Arizona, and I collected the second sample that was tested at Beta Analytic in Florida. The C-14 test results came back virtually identical at between 9-10,000 years Before Present.

      That said, the next thing I need to do is to see if the age of glue can be faked. I have a couple of theories as to how it might be done and will be testing those ideas in the near future. If we prove the glue can be faked that's one thing. If not, then that's a whole different ballgame.

      There's nothing to get excited about yet.

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    4. Hi Scott, 3+ years later, is there an update on the glue potentially being faked?

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  19. Scott, now that you have gone beyond America's borders, is the next step Planet Earth Unearthed?

    If so, here is something to be solved and you, with your TV resources able to mount an expedition, are the perfect person to do it.

    There is a Alien face on a mountain in Antarctica. This face has been slowly revealed by melting/moving snow in photos from Google Earth (and Maps).

    These are the co-ordinates. 72°00′ 36.00” S , 168° 34′ 40.00” E

    Is this really carved into a mountain, simply a natural formation or the whim of the snow?

    https://www.google.ca/maps/@-72.0101609,168.5867241,1655m/data=!3m1!1e3

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    1. Geoffrey,

      While I definitely see what you're talking about and it sure does look like a face, I'm pretty sure that's a natural phenomenon produced by drifting snow within the irregular contours of the underlying topography.

      Pretty cool image though!

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  20. So I really enjoy watching your show. I enjoyed your episodes on Aztec history. I've gotten to be good friends with someone who's family has been in the Zacatecas area of Mexico since before the Spanish arrival. Without going into detail the historical stories I've been told regarding the Aztecs traveling through that area on their way Tenochtitlan were very eye opening. I'd be interested in knowing if you ever looked at the history from that specific area?

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    1. I have not looked into it in any real depth as I've been focusing on new evidence of Templar's in America. It's coming so fast and furious it's hard to keep up.

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    2. Agree! Thanks for the response. I know it was a little off the episode topic, but I was told some interesting finds are being dug up in that area. Living in the mid-Atlantic and having a Geography degree I find the prospect of pre-Columbian civilizations visiting North America amazing. Can't wait to see your new material!

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  21. If the Runestones have Egyptian and Hebrew mixed together, isn't it possible they came from ancestors of the tribes who left Egypt to escape the tyranny but held on to their ancestors knowledge and customs?

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  22. Countpaul,

    I'm a little confused by your question, but the artifact doesn't have a name that I'm aware of. Not sure you'll find much about that piece even if it did have a name.

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  23. Loved this episode - its fascinating that this piece could be that old predating much older civilizations. Where can I go to keep up on the latest finding on this adhesive you're trying to get more info on? I know its been almost a year. Is there any new updates? I just started watching this season after the first 3 great show.

    Thanks Scott

    -Kenny

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  24. Scott,

    Have you looked into Bob Lazar and his story that he has maintained since 1989? He is a scientist that claims to have been hired by a private company to work on the anti-gravity propulsion systems of these “ships”. From Bob Lazar comes the discovery and public knowledge of Area-51. He had also talked about an element, element 131, 20 years prior its “discovery”. But let’s set that aside for the moment,
    It is Bobs understanding that the ships that he saw on-site were gathered from archeological digs. No two ships looked the same, and I believe he says there were 9 of them.
    Should these artifacts be further verified, he might be an interesting person to talk to, or at least research his story. I believe it is possible that, not only is this an ancient and previously undiscovered culture, but perhaps, there is more to the story by way of Bob Lazard claims of these findings through archeological digs. I don’t think the he has anything to add to the artifacts, and vice-versa, but it might be interesting to ponder what could be. I find him to be the only credible modern day source of this ancient alien story and it could be interesting to see what he might have to say about the ancient stones.
    As an aside, do you have any plans to implement lydar technology into finding structures beneath the thick jungles? I believe there is an abundance of information to learn from South America and we’ve only just begun.

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  25. Can you also post the images of the other artifacts? The series of faces and the large face with the writing (profile is of a bodied figure)

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  26. Scott have you contemplated visiting the famous Costa Rica Stone balls in Costa Rica for a show?you would find it very usefull.My Dad told me interesting stories about the indigenious people and their interactions with the balls.

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    1. Unknown,

      If given the opportunity I would love to look into the stone balls found all around the world. We'll see what happens!

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  27. There was an underwater city found off the coast of Cuba by Paulina Zelitsky and her husband at Advanced Digital Communications. Initial interest seemed to be shown by NatGeo, I believe. Then Nothing. Like the academic world just forgot about it. No formal research or investigation. I assume most academics would rather shrug it off as a natural formation or natural anomaly and call it a day. However it looks to be man made, and other underwater archaeological reconnaissance has been done over the years which as I understand seem promising, but I think there must be a lack of funding or interest. I wouldn't draw the conclusion that this is "Atlantis", but I do believe it could show evidence of a very early advanced stone building society in the America's that predate the given narrative and could rival what was being done in Sumeria at that time. The fact the there has been no academic interest shown in what should be considered an important find in our own back yard underlines the many problems I see in modern accademia and the stagnant department heads that fill Universities. In anycase, I'm sure you have heard of this find, have you considered paying it a visit? Perhaps doing an episode? I think it would go a long way to shedding light on this underwater mystery.

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  28. What I can say is that I have been noticing a number of these types of artifacts and some of the more complicated ones look to me as if the artist had noticed the connection between certain Lewis Carroll illustrations for Alice in Wonderland etc and various paintings by HR Giger (who designed the monster for Alien) before this unknown artist started playing around with the connections to create this Greys visits the Mayans mythos. I've noticed this with several pieces. This rectangular artifact here is a very good example. I think I'm quite a fan of whoever this unknown artist is and I hope that more pieces are revealed.

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  29. I handmade tobacco pipes, so I'm really intrigued by the artifact pipe with eyes carved through to the bowl tjat I heard you discussing on Earth Ancients - but I can't find a picture anywhere?

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  30. I thought the writing on the "mask" artifact was interesting in that it read right-to-left. I cannot imagine many forgers that would be that precise. I was wondering if/when you determine these are real if you are going to contact a linguist to attempt to decipher the writing.

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  31. Hi Scott, really great to see this episode of your show. I have been following the story of these 'alien artifacts' from Ojuelos de Jalisco, Tula Hidalgo etc for a number of years now and have seen literally thousands of images of different objects allegedly dug up in these locations. For starters yours is the first TV show I've come across which has covered this story, so thank you for that! Secondly, surely the best way to confirm the authenticity of their provenance is to take a film unit to these locations and go dig up some of these artifacts yourselves - perhaps in the company of a reputable archeologist. Filming them coming up out of the ground has got to be the one sure fire way of proving this. However it would have to be done in such a way as to ensure that it were clear that it couldn't have been set up beforehand. Keep up the good work!

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    1. Hi Murry, You are absolutely right about testing the veracity of the artifacts by personally digging them up, preferably with a qualified archaeologist present. However, that part of Mexico is extremely dangerous as Mark Russell has been robbed several times and the cartels are looking for Americans to kidnap and use for ransom. The network will not approve of a trip there, so I'm not sure when I would be able to do that. I'd sure love to.

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  32. You need to view this resource: https://www.whiteagleteachings.org/

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