Monday, January 24, 2022

Testing the Root Leaching Scars on the Kensington Rune Stone

In the summer of 2018, I finally got the chance to test the white root leaching "scars" on the back side of the Kensington Rune Stone.  Because of conflicting personalities, and likely fear of the results, the board of directors at the Runestone Museum would not allow me access to the core sample for this testing I had taken from the back side of the stone as part of my initial investigation in 2000 .  I had tried for nearly a decade to get the core to test the root leaching scars to prove my hypothesis that contact of the roots from the Aspen tree that reportedly were tightly gripping the artifact when Olof Ohman and his two sons felled the tree back in 1898.

The refreshing change in attitude in the board members of the Museum and the open-minded new Museum Director were the main reasons I was finally able to test the stone.  The other reason was having the support of Hollywood actor, Peter Stormare and Elroy Balgaard, who were filming a television series called, Secrets of the Viking Stone.  I appeared in multiple episodes of the two-season, twelve episode series as the scientific "go to guy " expert and suggested testing the root leaching as part of the show.  I explained that if my hypothesis was right and we were able to prove the white scars were caused by roots from the tree Olof cut down, which numerous first-hand witnesses said ranged in age from 25-30 years, then it would prove he could not have been involved in creating the artifact since he first came to America 19 years earlier.  

Peter and Elroy loved the idea and we performed the testing at the Materials Evaluation and Engineering laboratory in Plymouth, Minnesota.  The testing went smoothly and the results were conclusive.  I wrote this report about the testing a few days after we performed the work and Peter asked me if I would wait to publish it until the episode aired several months later.  Frankly, I forgot about the report until the other day when a friend reminded me about it and I decided to publish it here first.  Enjoy the report and I look forward to hearing your thoughts and questions. 


Kensington Rune Stone Root Leaching Core Sample Testing

By Scott F. Wolter P.G.

August 2, 2018

Introduction

The Kensington Rune Stone is an artifact that was discovered in September of 1898 by a Swedish immigrant farmer named Olof Ohman on his property while clearing trees with his two oldest sons, Olof Jr., who was 12 years old at the time, and Edward, who was 10.  After cutting off the roots around the base of a 25-30-year-old Aspen tree, according to six eyewitnesses, they used a winch to bring the tree down.[1]  Still entangled within the root under the trunk was a 202-pound stone they discovered had a long inscription carved in Scandinavian runes.  Controversial from the start, the inscription has long been considered a hoax with many accusing Olof Ohman of creating it.  Some alleging he carved the inscription and placed it under the tree as part of a clever hoax.

Geological, runological and historical research has generated voluminous data consistent with the artifact being an authentic Fourteenth Century artifact has dramatically undermined the hoax theories.  The current testing was performed on the top portion of the core sample taken from the back side of the artifact and addresses the surmised root leaching believed to have produced the two white-colored, undulating and branching lineations present on the stone.  Scholars have said the lineations were produced by active roots that pulled elements from minerals in the rock as food for the then young tree.  The process reportedly involves an acid produced by the roots, and fungus in the soil that leaches and depletes the dark colored “pigment” elements, believed to be iron (Fe) and magnesium (Mg), thereby producing the white lineations where the roots were in contact with the stone. 

Methodology

Scanning Electron Microscopy (SEM) was performed at Materials Engineering and Evaluation Inc. to document the overall quantity of various elements on the surface of the core sample.  Four (4) locations were selected in the non-root leached (dark) areas and four (4) locations were selected in the root leached (white) areas.  The bulk elemental data at all eight (8) locations was collected and interpreted upon completion of the examination.

Background Information

In 2000, the Kensington Rune Stone was brought to the laboratory of America Petrographic Services, Inc., where as part of the geological investigation a 1-1/4-inch diameter core sample was obtained from the back side of the artifact.  The location of the core was chosen to include a joint fracture, a discontinuous crack and the white root leaching where it branched into two roots. 

Figure 1: Two, white, roughly parallel, undulating and branching lineations trend across the glacially striated surface and down the glacial side of the stone. (Wolter, 2000) 

Figure 2: Close-up of the area (circled in yellow) where the 1-1/2” dimeter core sample was obtained.  (Wolter, 2000)



Figures 3 & 4: The white colored branching root leaching can be seen on the top of the core sample prior to removal (left).  A side view of the core sample after extraction (right). (Wolter, 2000/2000)

Once the core sample was extracted, the top ½” was cut off and another cut was made perpendicular to the top of the core creating a cross-sectional view of the root leaching.  In cross-section, the white root leaching extended a maximum of 1.5 mm into the metagraywacke and tapered in depth closer to the edges of approximately ½” wide lineation on the surface. 

This confirms the white lineations are not a geological feature of the metagraywacke and were created by a chemical reaction that cause the color change starting at the surface and then propagating to the maximum 1.5 mm depth.


Figure 5: A cross-sectional view of the top of the core sample shows the white root-leaching extends a maximum depth of roughly 1.5 mm and shallows toward the edges. A yellowish fracture runs running sub-vertically from the top surface is unrelated to the white lineation (5X).  (Wolter, 2000)

It has long been believed the white lineations were created by contact with roots of the tree the artifact was entangled within.  Those roots were described by witnesses at the time as being 3” wide and flattened from prolonged contact with the stone.[2]  Plant physiologists and soil scientists explained the white lineations were created by the combination of a fungus present in the soil and acid produced by young roots actively leaching various elements as nutrients from the soil and rock as food for the tree.  As the tree grows, the root system expands and bark forms and the active part of the root moves on.  Based on the white root leaching scars present on the back side of the stone the bark began to form around the roots when they were one-half inch wide during the early life of the tree.

The reason the root leaching is believed to be connected to same tree Olof Ohman and his two sons discovered the artifact under, and not a tree at some time in the distant past, is due to the fact the pattern of the root leaching matches the first-hand witness testimony and the three sketches of the roots and the stone made by Olof Ohman, Sam Olson, and Olof Ohman Jr.


Figures 6 & 7: Olof Ohman made this sketch on December 9, 1909, (left) and his neighbor Sam Olson made his drawing in March of 1910 (right).  Both drawing show the main root of the tree extending straight down into the ground along the split side of the stone with the inscription side down.  The secondary roots are shown extending across the back side of the stone and then down the far side and match the white lineations still present on the back of the Kensington Rune Stone. (Minnesota Historical Society)

 Figure 8: Olof Ohman Jr. made this sketch in a letter to his brothers Arthur and John on April 2, 1957.  This sketch roughly matches and is consistent with the sketches his father and Sam Olson drew nearly half a century earlier. (Courtesy of the Ohman Family)

To generate scientific data to support the supposition of the white lineations present on the back side of the Kensington Rune Stone elemental analysis using a scanning electron microscope (SEM) on the top surface was performed by Ryan Haase at Materials Evaluation and Engineering, Inc., on July 30, 2018.  The analysis was performed on a total of eight (8) locations on the top surface of the core, four in the dark areas and numbered 1, 2, 7 and 8, and four in the white areas 3, 4, 5 and 6.  The Runestone Museum in Alexandria, Minnesota, was kind enough to make the core sample available for testing.

Figure 9: This picture is the top surface of the core sample on the platform placed into the scanning electron microscope (SEM) for analysis.  Elemental scans were performed in eight locations, four in the dark areas (1, 2, 7 and 8) and four in the white areas (3, 4, 5 and 6).

Test Results

The results of the scans produced the following elements present at all eight locations: carbon (C), oxygen (O), iron (Fe), sodium (Na), magnesium (Mg), aluminum (Al), silicon (Si), chlorine (Cl), potassium (K), calcium (Ca) and titanium (Ti).  The elements that produce dark color within the minerals that make up the rock, such as biotite, hematite, magnetite and pyrite, are iron and magnesium.[3]  The overall scan shows a general trend of consistency in the relative quantities of all eleven elements.  However, close examination of the scans shows noticeable anomalies in the quantities of iron and magnesium.  According to plant physiologist Dr. Paul Syltie, Ph.D., “The soil releases its stored elements, from exchangeable and non-exchangeable sites on clay (micas) or organic matter, to root hairs or to microorganisms that extract the nutrients and move them to the roots.  …the micronutrients zinc (Zn), copper (Cu), iron (Fe) and magnesium (Mn) act in part as enzyme cofactors (to make enzymes work) …  Magnesium comprises the core of chlorophyll, the light energy trapping compound.”[4]  All four areas tested in the white areas had a lesser amount of iron and magnesium when compared to the four dark areas. 

Figure 10: The bulk elemental scan of location 1 shows the elements carbon (C), oxygen (O), iron (Fe), sodium (Na), magnesium (Mg), aluminum (Al), silicon (Si), chlorine (Cl), potassium (K), calcium (Ca) and titanium (Ti). 

Figure 11: A composite of the bulk elemental scans of locations 1, 2, 3 and 4, show very similar quantities of the various elements.  Closer inspection of the iron and magnesium peaks show a noticeable trend.

Figure 12: A magnified view of the bulk elemental scans for iron (Fe) at locations 1, 2, 3 and 4, show a clear difference of a higher overall iron content in the dark locations verses the white (root leached) locations. 

Figure 13: A magnified view of the bulk elemental scans for magnesium (Mg) at locations 1, 2, 3 and 4, show a clear difference of a higher overall magnesium content in the dark locations verses the light locations.

Conclusions

These results are consistent with the thesis of the depletion of the “pigment” elements iron and magnesium due to chemical leaching of young roots in contact with the stone which produced the white, undulating and branching lineations on the back side of the Kensington Rune Stone.  Based on the testimony of multiple first-hand witnesses the average age of the tree was 25 to 30 years old.  Since the root leaching occurred during the early life of tree (less than five years), it proves the tree was in contact with stone for the full life of tree.  Therefore, since Olof Ohman didn’t immigrate to the United States until 1879, nineteen years prior to the discovery of the artifact in 1898, these test results serve as additional evidence that he could not have been involved in its creation.[5]

References

Syltie, Paul, Ph.D., How Soils Work: A Study into the God-Plane Mutualism of Soils and Crops, Paul Syltie, Ph.D., 2003.

Wolter, Scott F. and Richard Nielson, The Kensington Rune Stone: Compelling New Evidence, Lake Superior Agate Publishing, Chanhassen, Minnesota, 2006.


[1] Wolter/Nielsen, Pages 3-4, 2006.

[2] Wolter/Nielsen, Page 30, 2006.

[4] Syltie, Paul, Ph.D., Page 11, 2003.

[5] Wolter/Nielsen, Page 390, 2006.

Here are a couple of photographs of documents that give a little more context to this research.  


In February of 2003, I photographed this page from the notebook of Professor Newton H. Winchell who investigated the Kensington stone making three trips to the Ohman Farm in 1909-1910.  Winchell wrote down Ohman's description of the roots and their position around the stone, "Mrs. Ohman told my livery man that Ohman borrowed the school book after the stone was found for the purpose of deciphering the inscription.  Mr. Ohman said the main root of the tree was at the edge and went down nearly perpendicular, in that respect differing from Mr. Olson and his sketch.  I had a long talk with Mr. Ohman, and am impressed with his succinct candor and truthfulness of all his statements, and also I found he is a more intelligent man than I had supposed.  He gave me more of the details of the history of the stone than I had heard.  He had never heard of Holand till he called on him at Kensington.  Holand had no relations in the neighborhood and so far as I can find out is a stranger except since he took up with the stone." 


This newspaper article from the 1960's contains interesting recollections of the roots around stone from a first-hand witness named Clarence Larson. 


On the first page of his final 1909 report on the his examination of the Kensington Rune Stone, Professor of Geology at the University of Minnesota, Newton H. Winchell, wrote that he was not able to examine a thin section of the rock  to do a complete mineral identification and see metamorphic textures under polarized light necessary to accurately identify the rock as a metagraywacke.



 

75 comments:

  1. Excellent article. I love following and watching your work.

    What an exciting confirmation of early visitors to the area.

    Greg Hager

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    1. Hi Greg,

      What this proves is no one in the Ohman Family could have been involved in creating the inscription and that Olof was telling the truth the whole time. Now the naysayers have to go back to the drawing board to come up with some other scenario they think the world will buy.

      Good luck with that...

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  2. I anxiously await Harold Edwards' critique of your findings. By the way, the open public debate challenge you've thrown down? Sounds like Edwards is willing to take you up on it, and even suggested something like this happen in front of your geology peers at a state meeting. Certainly, you'd be willing to engage on your KRS findings in front of an esteemed grouping of professionals, no?

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    1. Edwards will have nothing but nonsense to say about this scientific report just like the unserious "Peer reviewed paper" he published where he demonstrated that a PhD Geologist didn't know the difference between a sedimentary and metamorphic rock. Seriously, that is like a medical doctor not knowing the difference between an arm and a leg.

      If he is your geological "champion" then your case against the KRS is in a death coma.

      Really dude, you need to get off this Edwards ship, the Titanic had a better future than his ability to argue against the KRS. A debate with him will never happen because the challenge was issued to a legitimate academic, not a failed one.

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    2. Did not N.H. Winchell identify it as "The stone is a dense and firm greywacke," (sandstone) ?
      Must we throw out his geology as well?

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    3. Person who cowardly refuses to use their real name,

      Winchell did write that, however, you dishonestly chose not to include what Winchell wrote a few sentences later in his 1909 report. I posted the actual page from Winchell's report above that puts your comment into proper context.

      He wrote, "I have not been able to have a thin section made for microscopic examination,..." Any real geologist knows a thin section review under polarized light is mandatory to be able to proper identify the mineralogy and metamorphic textures that are too fine-grained to identify otherwise. Even 113 years ago Winchell was wise enough to qualify his rock identification knowing a thin section was needed. It's a little unfair to pick on the professor without proper context a century after his death, don't you think?

      Regardless, the KRS is, in fact, a metagraywacke and the PhD geologist you so admire was unable to recognize this basic fact.

      Reload and try again....

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    4. Sorry Scott who is being disingenuous here again ?

      Winchel said a lot more than what you quoted as well, what he didn't say is that " a thin section review under polarized light is mandatory to be able to proper identify the mineralogy and metamorphic textures that are too fine-grained to identify otherwise."

      That Scott was all you !

      If you actually read what he said it becomes very apparent that he was quite confident in his classification of this as a greywacke.

      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yg6t6zUXA13MshJED-ok3uC8lNk161KC/view

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    5. Bob (Harold),

      You just don't know when to quit do you? You revealed your sorry ass self by invoking Dr. Wieblen trying to create a different reality. The only reason you are attacking Winchell is to try and salvage whatever credibility you can by disparaging another. That doesn't change the fundamental fact the KRS is a metagraywacke and you got it wrong; period.

      I've read Winchell's report many times and a lot more carefully than you. Winchell had an excuse not having access to a thin section for proper identification well over a century ago. Your problem is incompetence and a maniacal desire to seek revenge against me. Get over yourself and accept the fact you refuse to acknowledge; the KRS is an authentic medieval artifact and nothing you can do will change it.

      I am bored with these feeble attempts and you are now done on this blog. Now go crawl back under the rock where you came from.

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  3. But you posed an open challenge to anyone and didn't specify any parameters in which you would not debate? Then you insult the person who accepted your challenge. I think if it is so easy to defeat this person in a debate you should do it. Otherwise you are looking like you are being chicken. I mean why issue a challenge to anyone then refuse to debate the first person who takes you up on it? Now you are trying to make the debate happen here on your own blog. Seriously with all due respect sir you have been challenged. The public is going to know you didn't want to debate this particular person. I mean you want to debate Andy White who is an archaeologist but not another geologist that disagrees with you. You would have to admit this sounds kind of weird on the surface. Thanks.

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    1. First, before you try to criticize and call me "Chicken", start by using your real name. You don't, dare I say, because you are "Chicken?" In fact, I'll bet a polished piece of metagraywacke you are in fact, Andy White, hiding behind "Anonymous." Even if it is not Andy, this message will get back to him so it doesn't matter anyway.

      This is typical of spineless academics who are afraid to debate on the merits of the evidence. Yes, I blocked you after your latest post on my Twitter thread because you have abused the privilege of having an audience of my followers.

      You have the nerve to question my credibility when I have answered all your questions and complaints honestly, objectivity, and admittedly with a little snark to match your own.

      The failed academic you continue to promote is not legitimate, nor qualified as evidenced by his silly paper, and has an obsessive, maniacal hatred of me that I consider to be dangerous. I understand your hesitancy to debate me as an archaeologist, but spare me the B.S. reason is you're bored with the topic. You simply don't have the background necessary which is fine. Just be honest and say so.

      Who's next?

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  4. "After a short stint working in my laboratory, this individual was relieved of his employment almost twenty years ago. This individual also holds the distinction of being the only person I ever had to personally walk out the door of our business."

    That about says it all. Pretty nice way of saying "fired". Why would anyone want to debate someone they've fired? How is any PhD in Geology qualified to debate anyone after they've been fired?
    Having been fired shows a certain level of incompetence.

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    1. Hey Anonymous!
      Most everyone in this world has been fired at some point in their life. It's not a career ending thing, especially when the place you were working at ended up asking you be or do something against ones personal boundaries. I know I'm a better person after having been fired.
      Anyone who can't see that people change is likely part of the establishment problem I mentioned in my other post. The inability to name yourself in your posts shows a "certain level" of cowardice. In My Humble Opinion.
      You should just leave while you are ahead, before someone calls you out publicly for the xxxxx you are.

      Bless You!
      Keri Erickson

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  5. Hi Scott!

    I actually love reading your responses to those that post on your threads. I am nothing more than an geology and history fan and an avid rock hound. My uneducated eyes can tell that the KRS is not a sedimentary rock. Looks to be one made from heat and pressure. I don't know the fancy words, that's yours to do.

    I have always respected your research and more importantly your enthusiasm to willingness to challenge the traditional schools of thought. I wish more would rely on facts and evidence rather than the hearsay and history written by those who would intentionally leave out and/or remove what didn't fit their version.

    The politics of what it takes to challenge what is considered "history" is dumbfounding to me. Your willingness to take on those who would rather stay silent (anonymous) and poke a bear are not thinking with their heads.

    I look forward to more from you!!


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    1. Keri,

      I appreciate the kind words of support. I've dabbled in this world of controversy for a long time and am still amazed at how close-minded, arrogant, and frankly dumb, some academics in the soft sciences can be. Their constant attempts at playing "Gotcha" are childish and simply a cover for their lack of seriousness and unwillingness to admit when they simply don't know something. They'd rather die than admit they were wrong.

      Unfortunately, I don't think it'll ever change with these people so we just keep up the good fight knowing the truth will ultimately prevail.

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  6. Hey Scott,

    After some deliberations I wanted to share this as well. I noticed just one, what I hope to be typo in your report. As a long time administrative person I have a tendency to read not only for content but also for accuracy.

    In reading the whole report, I understand that the iron and magnesium elemental levels are lower in the white areas where the roots were. However in this paragraph, it appears to me that you are saying is the opposite of what the image and your previous statement say. Please advise if I am reading this wrong.
    In your "Figure 13: A magnified view of the bulk elemental scans for magnesium (Mg) at locations 1, 2, 3 and 4, show a clear difference of a higher overall magnesium content in the white locations verses the dark locations."

    I look forward to your clarification.

    Best,
    Keri Erickson

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    1. Hi Keri,

      That was a good catch! You are right, the caption reads the opposite of what I meant to say and I have corrected it. Thanks for pointing that out and reading the paper carefully.

      Good for you!

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  7. I for one look forward to seeing/hearing one of these debates. But I suspect there will always be some excuse.

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    1. Darold (Harold),

      When a qualified and COMPETENT academic in any discipline accepts the challenge, I will be all over it.

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    2. Harold,

      Your pleading on social media for a debate with me is now getting pathetic. What you fail to realize is any debate ended in the abstract at the start of your "paper" when you wrote this, "This coating is consistent with stucco applied to the surface of the sandstone." There is no defending the two fundamental assumptions you make that killed everything else you write after that.

      1. The KRS is NOT a sandstone, it's a metagraywacke. Debate over...

      2. Calling the naturally formed hydrothermal calcite on the face side of the stone "...stucco applied..." is utterly ridiculous. This implies the calcite is actually a cementitious-based manmade product that was put onto the surface of the stone by human hand. This is so absurd to even suggest such a thing implies you must be joking. But alas, you are not.

      Lastly, why was your paper published in an archaeological journal and not a scientific geological journal? The reason is because archaeology is a soft science with, apparently, KRS denying sycophants willing to publish this ridiculous paper. Even you knew real geologists would have laughed at this silly attempt. Or more likely cried at this terribly sad situation.

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  8. In regards to decay rates that determine age... The Runestone has a tapered bottom which leads a person to believe it once stood upright in the air. Then, for a time buried underground. Are decay rates the same above ground and below ground? Could you determine how long the Runestone was below ground?

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    1. Eirik,

      The tapered bottom end of the stone would cause it to end up being inscription side up if upright at one time. It was discovered face down. Further, there is no weathering ground line present as expected if set upright for any length of time.

      The evidence suggests it was carved and then immediately buried inscription side down, and remained in the position until Olof discovered it in 1898.

      Decay rates vary above and below grade depending on a number of factors. One being the pH of the soil. That said, one would generally expect greater weathering above grade than below.

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  9. Thanks Scott, I'm now even more intrigued... to know more. I'd like to read one or more of your books to learn more. From descriptions, I can't tell which one (or more) will tell me what I want to know.

    1. I'm interested in how a 14th century stone mason would harvest the rock, or split it into the rectangular shape it is in. Also, how they could inscribe such perfect symbols.

    2. Scholars have really made a mess of reading the inscription. Too many options. One scholar said a usage wasn't known until 1904. How could he then say it was a forgery, if he believed it was done in 1898? Runes are accepted as starting around 11th century BC, when Phoenicians left Egypt. The Phoenician maritime alphabet was updated until 250BC (Punic Wars). A thousand years of updates are nowhere to be seen on the scholars blackboard leading to Sweden. Another reason to believe they were in America until 791AD.

    3. I waver back and forth between the Runestone being an actual accounting of events of the time, or done later to make people understand the history of America. Bravalla Moor is a Viking portage BC. Each new group of maritime Knights correspond to the time periods of new Mesoamerican cultures. Choros Island is a Templar portage to the Far East.

    There are a lot of questions there. You are the only one that makes me believe this Runestone could be the real thing. Can you give me a compass of which direction to take?

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    1. Eirik,

      People in the 14th Century had plenty of metal tools more than capable to split the stone to it's final sacred dimensions (2:1 ratio and exactly one megalithic yard in length diagonally). They had metal tools going back thousands of years, let alone 660 years.

      At this point, we know what the inscription says with only a few minor questions with regard to the runes and words. Regardless, the geology has proven it is medieval so they will sort it all out eventually when doubting academics stop putting up roadblocks.

      You need to read my blog post from July 2, 2016. It will answer a lot of your questions about the inscription:
      https://scottwolteranswers.blogspot.com/2016/07/kensington-rune-stone-inscription.html

      The KRS is authentic and vitally important to the history of the founding of this nation. Go back and read my numerous blog posts about the KRS where I shared new discoveries as they unfolded. I would also recommend you read my four book on KRS subject matter, starting with, "The Kensington Rune Stone: Compelling New Evidence." Go to my website to check them out: www.hookedx.com. I sign and personalize all books bought there.

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  10. Scott
    For everyones information. The Ohman family bought the farm in 1890.

    Preliminary Report to the Minnesota Historical Society by its Museum Committee.*
    Collections of the Minnesota Historical Society. v. 15, p. 221-286
    page 225
    "I was told that Mr. Ohman came to his farm in 1890, and on consulting the register of deeds at Alexandria I found lands deeded at four different dates, now constituting the Ohman farm, from 1890 to 1898, from Halvor Stenson, Ole Amundson, and E. J. Moen."

    How big would a poplar tree be with only 8 years growth?

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    1. Can you please use your real name, ?

      First, let’s get the Olof Ohman history straight before we talk about the Aspen tree and its roots shall we?

      Olof Ohman first emigrated to the U.S. in 1879, and worked as a carpenter (not a stone mason as some have erroneously claimed) in Brandon, Minnesota, until 1883, when he went back to Sweden. Ohman returned to the U.S. in 1885, and married his wife, Karin Danielson, in 1886. On April 17, 1890, Ohman purchased the first of five parcels of land that would total approximately 100 acres in Solem Township. Ohman moved his young family from Brandon to the farmstead now known as the 'Ohman Farm' in 1892.

      Why you think the Aspen tree was 8 years old is beyond me? Twelve witnesses signed written affidavits on file at the MHS (Minnesota Historical Society) who estimated the tree to be an average of 25-30 years old with its roots growing over the back side of the stone that witnesses said "...were 3-1/2” wide and flattened by prolonged contact." Facts matter, the tree was not 8 years old when the KRS was found as you mistakenly assume.

      This estimate of 25-30 year age of the tree is consistent with the reported 40-acre plot where the stone was discovered having been “set aside land” back in 1860. This plot of land was made available for settlers to use for cutting wood, hunting, gathering field stone, etc. Newton Winchell interviewed one of the early settlers who said the land had been clear cut of the old growth trees and the Aspens were the first to grow back. If we use an average date of 1865 for when the land was clear cut, that would make the Aspen that grew back approximately 35 years old. Pretty close to the age of the tree Ohman brought down the KRS was discovered under.

      I would also point out that Ohman was not in the country yet when the land was clear cut and the Aspen began to grow back. Therefore, he could not have created the KRS as so many have claimed over the years. It was simply impossible. If not him, then who?

      So what was your question?

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  11. Scott

    I agree with you! What I was trying to convey is if Ohman did plant the tree over the stone in 1890 it would only be about 8 yrs old.
    All the witnesses said it was about 8-10 in diameter. Clearly not 8 years old.
    In the same report Holand stated
    "For the purpose of ocular illustration Mr. Holand later procured on the spot from Mr. Ohman four sections cut across some poplar trees growing on Mr. Ohman 's farm, viz., sections shown in Plates IV and V, marked a, b, c, d. "

    Holand in the report put picture of the cross cut poplars on pages between 224 and 225, one can plainly see there are more that 8 years of tree ring growth.
    If you want to post the pictures of the actual cross cut poplar trees from the Ohman farm you can find them here.

    https://archive.org/details/collections15minnuoft/page/n253/mode/2up

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  12. Rather than having multiple people "estimate" the age of the tree, why did no one count the rings? Sounds like soft science to me.

    What's more unbelievable to me is that someone would go to the trouble of carving this and immediately bury it. Even more unbelievable is the idea that it's some kind of "land claim". How'd that work out?

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    1. Arthur,

      It’s not soft science, these statements are called, “First hand testimonials.” As it turns out, somebody just posted a link to one of the pictures of the trees Newton Winchell and Hjalmar Holand cut down that were of the age estimated by the witnesses. You can clearly see there are decades of rings, not 8.

      If you have read any of my books you would know the stone was carved and immediately buried, and it’s location marked by triangulating stone holes cut into glacial boulders for a future party to be able to relocate it. The stone tells us it’s a land claim on line two (2) with the longest word in the inscription, “upptagelsefärd” (acquisition business/taking up land).

      “Unbelievable”, why would you say something like that? In 1362, it was only a few decades after the Knights Templar order was put down by the King of France and the Roman Catholic Church. The Templars had the finest sailing fleet in the world at that time, and despite the B.S. “Columbus was first” false narrative, the Templars knew all about the lands to the west and that’s where their ideological descendants ended up. They passed the torch onto the Founding Fathers, who were all Freemasons and Knights Templar, who founded this nation based on the wrongful persecution of their ideological brethren in the 14th Century.

      I'd say the land claim and the "Great Experiment" that is the United States, has worked out pretty well, until recently. This is the perfect time for the truth about the Templars to come out so we can educate people about what our Founding Fathers truly intended. And most importantly, why!

      Believe it Arthur, because it’s the truth.

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    2. Arthur

      In the picture and on the same report - On page 223 it does give the tree ring count of some actual trees that Ohman cut that he thought to be of the same size as the original tree that was entangled in the stone.

      " The annual rings of growth on these sections can be counted as follows: On a, 37 annual rings; on b, 42 annual rings; on c, 38 annual rings; on d, 31 annual rings. From three to five years should be added for the de- cayed centers."

      https://archive.org/details/collections15minnuoft/page/n253/mode/2up

      If do not want to login to archive.org go to this Library of Congress site.

      https://www.loc.gov/resource/lhbum.0866h_0240_0318/?sp=7

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  13. Scott,

    We the people, need more TV shows from America Unearthed!! You own it.

    I'd like to propose a theory for fun... I have found way too many Time Loops in American and world history, to not believe, the Runestone isn't connected somehow to Lief Ericcson. The stories are far too similar. So here it goes, the scoop it yours:

    1. Liefr Ericsson is a red-haired giant. A descendant from the beginning of time. Their populations are allowed to grow in America, then Spanish invasions begin. It benefits both sides. Giants shrink, makes Egyptian descendants bigger.
    2. Liefr Ericsson is attacked along the east coast in 985 BC as per Saga, escapes to Superior portage, inscribes a Runestone describing the event, while hiding at St. Louis river inlet near Duluth.
    3. Templar meet the same fate in 1307 AD as per history, escape to America, then to Superior Portage, locate Liefr Ericcson Runestone, copy its text onto the Kensington stone in 1362 AD, add Side Panel describing where they would journey to, the convergence of Canadian/Superior portages, create a memorial using the Kensington Runestone as a base, putting the Liefr Ericcson Runestone on top.
    4. People in search of Templar find memorial, steal the Lief Ericcson Runestone but not the base, its face down just a rock, the Templar return to find the Ericcson Rune gone, cover the Kensington Runestone, use mooring rocks to report its location, tree is planted later to mark the spot, Olof makes history...

    It would make a great show! My faith is with you Scott.

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    1. Eirik,

      While this might make a fun TV show, it has no basis in reality so it isn't anything I would pursue. I've got my hands full trying to sort what we think actually did happen.

      Fiction is not my thing.

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    2. Thanks for indulging me Scott... I'm just trying to put a fresh perspective on the Kensington enigma. While your work is definitely more on track than others due to the fact that the KRS is without a doubt Templar oriented, geometric runes, there are still blaring questions not being answered... leaving open the door for something people are not considering.

      While I agree with you... this is definitely a land claim due to its placement, the question as to why the Runestone does not have a formal registration in Europe bellows out the fact that these men did not make it back alive. Yet, the circumstances of the Runestone's discovery beckons an understanding that people knew of its existence, but could not have been in good standing since its existence was kept under wraps. Thus, the Henry Sinclair story.

      It's not like other Runestones... way too professional in appearance. To me, it comes across as a Rosetta Stone. A translation of another work. Templar would have said they were Templar. The inscription is cryptic because it does not seem to pertain to the writers, as the inscription appears to have two writers, with a notation by a third. I respect your work, and I understand the truth will eventually be discovered by exploring all possibilities, allowing for a logical conclusion. Seven years ago, the curator of the Kensington museum bookstore told me it was fake... then agreed to display my materials. It's a beautiful work of art, and it has a significant value to be discovered.

      It wouldn't surprise me if it turns out O-Leif Ω-man was sort of a pawn in an effort to open the door to a Kensington Rosetta Stone that decrypts ancient Runestones back in Sweden. It's a long shot, but if a scholared group of exiled Templar wished to preserve history... they would have been able to decipher ancient Runes in their time, that have been lost to our time, due to the paradigm shift. Leif Ericcson was attacked, and he survived by entering the tail of the dragon, thereby preserving what remnants of Nordic history were left after the fall of 791 AD.

      I spoke to a government agent... he expressed to me that Pre-Columbian history is known and was common knowledge until 1900 AD. But due to their disapproval of early Viking activities, then Norman activities... they now wish to suppress the history of this country. It's a puzzle that may not be solved until all parties of interest are without lineage.

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  14. I dunno, Scott. Someone found some other trees and used them to "prove" that the tree in question was X years old? "First hand testimonials"? Sounds like soft science to me. "...the tree ring count of some actual trees that Ohman cut that he thought to be of the same size..." That's hard science?

    Puhleeze, stop peddling the "Columbus was first" nonsense. As far back as the 1960s Leif Erikson was being taught in grade schools. I know because I was there.

    "Stone holes"? Go on, pull the other one. How would one find the stone holes?

    Land is claimed by occupying it. This the Templars/Cistercians and other ne'er do wells did not do, except briefly in the Middle East.

    Regards and all that.

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    1. Arthur,

      The Aspen tree cut slices experiment is not heavy lifting to understand and neither is the concept of “first hand testimonials.” Put on your big boy pants, stop whining and deal with it.

      Surely you’re joking with the “Columbus was first” comment, or was that a mistake? My life’s work has been to “peddle” the opposite, or were you not paying attention?

      You find the stone holes by opening your eyes. They are cut into the larger sized glacial boulders that litter most of Minnesota. There are at least a dozen such boulders with stone holes within a quarter-mile of the KRS discovery site. They also triangulate at the exact spot where the KRS was discovered, or are you going to argue it’s all coincidence?

      The Templar descendants who stayed behind starting in 1395 intermarried and assimilated with the indigenous people. In this case, you could argue the land claim was in part, legitimized by occupation. The strategic alliance with the indigenous tribes was pretty brilliant wasn’t it? You sure couldn’t argue the Natives weren’t here first. But then, we kicked them off their land anyway. So much for your “must occupy the land to claim it” theory…

      You need to remember Arthur, I didn’t just make this stuff up. I’ve been in indigenous sweat lodges and earned the right to ask my questions. This is what they say happened with their “Blood brothers.” Do you believe them?

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  15. Good Lord Scott! YOU are the one saying that "Columbus first" is taught. It is not. So fiction IS your thing.

    "[Stone holes] They are cut into the larger sized glacial boulders that litter most of Minnesota. There are at least a dozen such boulders with stone holes within a quarter-mile of the KRS discovery site. They also triangulate at the exact spot where the KRS was discovered, or are you going to argue it’s all coincidence?"

    No, I'm going to argue that you force the evidence to fit.

    "But then, we kicked them off their land anyway. So much for your “must occupy the land to claim it” theory…"

    Even a sociology major could see that that's a pretty kickass land claim.

    "Sweat lodges"? Jeepers Scott! Anyone with a ticket to Ojai of Boulder can go to a sweat lodge. I've taken a few saunas in my time, it's not a credential.

    Diminishing regards,

    Arthur

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    1. Arthur,

      You worded your initial comment about Columbus poorly, but at least we agree on something!

      I didn’t have to force anything, the facts fit perfectly, as they must, if the thesis is true. Voila!

      It was not a “Pretty kickass land claim”, it was genocide which I don’t find amusing at all.

      Jeepers Arthur, you have no clue what you are talking about, nor what I am talking about. Just admit your ignorance. A Mide’win sweat is a very sacred, and secret ritual experienced by very few who are not member of their order. Calling it a sauna is offensive.

      Come on man, you’re struggling badly here...

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  16. Scott,

    Why is it that when something like the KRS pops up that clearly goes against "accepted science" certain people absolutely lose their minds?

    As just a normal guy, it amazes me that when “accepted history” is challenged even a tiny bit so called experts will go to extreme measures to disprove it.

    Isn’t learning the truth better than accepting a false narrative?

    I find it hard to believe that in 1890 someone sat down and said, hmmm lets fake a rock so we can make tons of money off it. There wasn’t tons of money to be had for things like this back then.

    So if there wasn’t any money to be made, why would he fake a rock? I can not think of any logical reason that a carpenter / farmer would go out of his way to make this kind of forgery.

    It would be one thing if he was an academic with an axe to grind, but by all accounts, this is not the case here.

    Keep up the good fight! And one day they will be forced to accept the reality that is the KRS.

    Matt

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    1. Matt,

      Your point is well taken and there are many reasons why academics, skeptics, and debunkers lose their mind which are purely phycological. There is no factual evidence that supports a hoax so they resort to the only thing left, trying to implant a fictional motive to create something they refuse to accept as authentic. In part, because they can't explain and do not have the intestinal fortitude, to admit they simply don't know. That is death knell for an academic.

      The prevailing argument amongst the "scholars" is Olof Ohman, and maybe a buddy or two of his, carved the stone to "fool the learned/academics." This theory is so weak and unsupported it borders on ridiculous.

      You have a late 19th Century farmer trying to support a family while in a foreign land with a rudimentary education. There is no evidence he had any interaction with academics until after he found the stone.

      What possible 'axe to grind' could a person have if you never engaged the kind of people you supposedly created an elaborate hoax, there's no way he could have created, to fool people you never met? There is no motive to support this nonsense, yet the learned still cling to this fiction.

      I don't get it either....

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  17. I wonder if Scott was the narrator for Netflix TERRORISM CLOSE CALLS

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    1. Marlen,

      If it was me, it was my alter ego... No, I didn't do that narration voiceover.

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  18. THANKYOU!!! I have so enjoyed seeing all your interviews on YouTube I just wanted to let you know and everything you’re saying about the masons, the stone and the Indians , everything leading up to Montana it’s so fascinating and I think you have found the answers!!! It’s amazing every time I heard a new interview ( jimmy church) you say something more about what you discovered I can’t wait if you’re gonna come out with a show detailing how all this went down or where it led you , will that be happening one day? Oh gosh I hope so! The other fascinating thing is the interview you did With Jimmy you pulled out the writings that came from the deer hide about all these revelations and having the answer to the oak island mystery on the neck part of deer skin it’s so fascinating is that something that you’re going to help them try to solve? That would be radical also to see you help them or be on there however it plays out!! And please let me know if you’re gonna be doing any kind of more shows about everything you discovered about the Masons and everything they did with the Indians and founding our country I could watch it all day every day And as you said in one of the interviews it wouldn’t change anything I don’t know why everyone’s so skeptical and can’t openly admit that this is how it actually went down. The truth should be the most important thing
    Blessings Scott and thank you for taking the time to read this that means so much to me.

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  19. So sad to hear bout uvade tx at least 21 killed dude that did it yesterday killed his grandmother first dude is an 18 year old gunman

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    1. It's horrible and it's time our lawmakers, not just Democrats, did something. Republicans who carry their Bibles and claim to be "Pro-Life" are sickening hypocrites arguing the 2nd amendment is our "Constitutional right" while their pockets are lined with NRA money as our children are slaughtered. They're happy to take away the rights of women and all minorities, but they'll be dammed if someone tries to take away their guns. Enough praying, start passing reasonable laws that actually do something to at least slow the carnage.

      You watch, the Republicans will say all the right things, but in the end do nothing. But then, lately, they have become the party of pathological liars and truth deniers. Disgusting...

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  20. There isn’t a politician in America worth the breathe in their lungs, they are trained to be liars and thieves as soon as they enter their first college course in politics. This “empire” is as doomed as every empire that came before it. Because humans are greedy, hateful animals.

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    1. That's a bit of a harsh statement, but I can't say you're wrong. Now more than ever with the overturning of "Roe" and the threat of more individual rights being taken away by the sanctimonious and hypocritical evangelicals screaming for their right to own guns and decide what to do with their bodies when it comes to vaccines. In the same breath they also say personal choice be dammed if it's a woman's right to decide what to do with her own body. Religion historically has been the scourge of humanity and it's just as true today. America was once the "Free Templar State" where that State and Religion were separate; not anymore... The vision of freedom our Founders envisioned is rapidly on the road to extinction.

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  21. Please good sir, do tell us how Templars would support abortion.

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    1. What possessed you to ask a silly question like that? If you could put down your rosary for a minute and listen carefully... Abortion is personal decision between a woman, her partner if he's around and not a rapist, and her doctor. Organized religious zealotry has, yet again with Roe and allowing the inappropriate influence on our youth with prayer in schools, stuck it's nose in where it doesn't belong. You sound like one of the "brainwashed from birth" who have forgotten our country's history.

      It was the Templars who suffered from the tyranny of the monarchs of Europe, remember King Philip the Fair of France? It was the Templars who also suffered persecution from the Roman Catholic Church; facts my friend. It was the ideological descendants of the Templars, Freemasonry, who evolved directly from them and founded this country. 53 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were Master Masons. Make no mistake, this country was founded on the principles of Freemasonry; fact! It was the 14th Century experience of the Templars by an autocracy, and organized religion, that led to the founding of America. That's why we have freedom of religion, and this is NOT a Christian country as so many misguided zealots think. The religious right should be careful what they wish for; they want their individual freedoms, but at the same time want to tell others what to do with their lives when it conflicts with their beliefs; hypocrisy off the charts.

      So, would the Templars support abortion? They would say, if you don't believe in abortion, don't have one. They would also say don't you dare push your religious beliefs on anyone else. Women are still going to have abortions if they want one. They will just be less safe and many will die. They believed then, and my brethren still do, that if we put more time and money in educating the masses, as our founders absolutely believed, we would have a better society with an enlightened populace who embraced science, reason, and compassion and not one beholden to blind faith.

      The Church hates Freemasonry because we teach an individual can have a relationship with Deity/God all by yourself, without the need of a human conduit organized religion requires. By teaching the individual achieving spiritual enlightenment is a personal thing that is nobody else's business it puts the Church and its dogma literally out of business.

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    2. So, Templars weren't religious zealots then. Fascinating. Thank you so very much for expressing your most profound misrendering of this very sensitive issue. As for being anonymous, as that option is available, I did not expect to take grief in this regard. Especially from another woman. Why do you allow such personal attacks on your blog?

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    3. The rules here are different for cowards who post anonymously. Further, your silly question gave me an opportunity to comment and clarify my position on an issue that is very personal to many people. You now know the rules and understand if you offer stupid commentary, it either will not be posted or you will be treated like the troll you are for not using your real name. Gotcha...!

      For the record, I know you are not a woman. You are the same troll that gets his ass handed to him here routinely. Don't you get tired of that?

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    4. Define "woman". Please.

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    5. Since you claim to be a woman, it seems you are in a better position to answer that question don't you think?

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  22. Why can't "anonymous" have the balls to put thier name on this post? Here's a good one for you.... I used to say to those who would say to me "you have big ones" (aka balls because I'm a woman with tenacity & used to work in male dominated industries), me: "You know why are woman's breasts on thier chest? Because if they were between they legs like a man's balls they wouldn't be able walk."

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    1. Anonymous is usually a troll trying to play "gotcha" with me. I usually don't post comments from Anonymous idiots, but this one gave me an opportunity to, pardon the pun, bust his balls...

      On another note, most women I know have more "balls" than men!

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  23. With 5 sites vandalized does that effect the direction or any revelations that you would release in your books? Such as Vaults around the US/Montanna that our founding fathers emptied to fund Americas Independence? Looking forward to your next book after Cryptic code.

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    1. SteelWolf,

      I am very careful about what I publish with regard to locations of places that need to be kept secret and protected. I will continue to do so!

      The next book written Don Ruh about the new Cremona Document material is just about ready and it's really good stuff! It'll be worth the wait.

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    2. The same Don Ruh who claims to have resuscitated a heart-attack victim using a a boat battery? I'm sure whatever he says we should believe without question.

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    3. Grimmy,

      First you have the facts wrong, Don didn't resuscitate anyone. If you had read his book carefully you would know it was he who was resuscitated after being unconscious from nearly drowning. Whatever happened to bring him back was told to him by the ones who saved him including a medical doctor. Pretty hard for him to have been a first-hand witness don't you think?

      I realize that won't stop you from making snarky comments, but Don has never shown me any reason to doubt the veracity of any statements he has made in my presence. Can't say the same about you unfortunately.

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    4. It's impossible to jump-start a human heart with a boat battery. The story isn't real. In fact, it's a plot point stolen from a James Bond movie. All you have to go on is Ruh's word that this happened, and it didn't. Simply by telling this story he has given you plenty of reason to doubt his veracity. It doesn't matter who Don claims relayed the story to him, it's still Don telling the story to you and the rest of us.

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    5. Grimmy,

      Again, we don't know the context or exactly what happened. Is it an embellishment? Maybe; maybe not. What's germane is vetting the documents and the story to the best of our ability. Being snarky and negative isn't helpful. The story is complicated and difficult enough. Even if his battery story was an embellishment, it doesn't negate the C-Doc story.

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  24. Hello Scott, this is not technically about the KRS, my hobby is metal detecting I have been metal detecting for over 30 years now. I have 10’s of thousands of artifacts and coins.
    I’m the fall of 2021 I found a strange anomaly in Central NJ in a field less than 1/16 of a mile from the Delaware River. I have found 3 different I believe lead based medieval items in the same field. Would you please look at what I found and possibly help get an answer?

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    1. Hi John, I would love to see pictures of what you found. Probably best to send to my email: swolter@teamaet.com

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  25. Hello Scott,

    The KRS is genuine. The text has been slightly misinterpreted. Og:Dod doesn't mean "and dead". This is in fact Ogdoad.

    "Stay Tuned"

    Anthony Greb

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    1. Anthony,

      You're right, the word isn't "dead". It's "death."

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    2. Scott,

      Both NRS and KRS are Christian Documents. Probably best described as Pythagorean Christian Gnosticism. The people responsible were Resurrecting the Ogdoad to usher in a New Golden Age.

      The KRS also clearly states, HAWET which has been taken as "have eyes". Hawet is Hectae the Goddess of Resurrection. She has likely become one of the three Marys from Christianity.

      The first coded word is
      8 GON Ter/Octagon Tower
      The structural and physical embodiment of the Ogdoad.
      The North American Baptistry itself. The ON Rune was key to figuring it out. More research is needed but, the name of the person responsible might be encoded as well. The name just so happens to be related to the person most likely responsible for building the Baptistry in the first place.

      The KRS and NRS are two of the most profound Christian Runestones. I shall be publishing a paper shortly on the Gnostic Runes of the Narragansett Runestone. I expect plenty of derision as no one I'm aware of has ever written about the connection before.

      Anthony Greb






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    3. "The first coded word is
      8 GON Ter/Octagon Tower" - For some reason I thought of the tower in Newport, Rhode Island.

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    4. SteelWolf,

      Whether the KRS inscription refers in some way to the Newport Tower is unclear. However, I would not be at all surprised if it does in some cryptic or veiled way. We know there is a long-range alignment between the two sites using the planet Venus when it is in the west, northwest part of the sky at sunset as it is right now in early July of 2023. The Newport Tower was constructed at roughly the same time as the KRS was created in 1362 or shortly thereafter circa 1400.

      Regardless, there is an unmistakable connection between the two the Templars created as part of their long-range quest to create the New Atlantis their ideological descendants completed with the founding of the United States of America.

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  26. Octa/Octo. 8. Newport tower maybe 8 sides? Was trying to picture it in memory. Thanks for the chat.
    J.M. Portneuf #18 AF&AM 32-SR, KOM-YR.
    O.T.S.I. Volume 1 reading 2 soon.

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    1. The first line mentions Two people responsible for the stone and the dimensions of the baptistry(IT'S NOT Henry Sinclair). 8 GON TER is Octagon Tower. 22 NOR RMEN is the circumference of the structure. The baptistry was first built in the 1100s. First shows up on the 1100-1199 Sawley Map. The first written account is the 1165 Prester John Letter.

      Still waiting for an explanation on how "worship" on the KRS was translated as "our ships" with an S added to make the word plural, when it's not plural on the stone.

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    2. Patrick,

      No, the Newport Tower was not built in the 1100's, it was built circa 1400. New Cremona Document material makes this very clear and in no uncertain terms. Archaeoastronomy dates the numerous astronomical alignments to circa 400, and the alignment with the Kensington Rune Stone places its original construction to the late 14th Century. Where you came up with the 1100's is unclear but it is not correct.

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    3. Not Patrick. Someone following their work. Cremona has you Hooked On An X. The Baptistry wasn't a secret to the Cartographers. That fact has been laid bare. First shows up in the cartographic record on the 1100-1199 Sawley World Map. An absolutely astounding discovery by that group of people.

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    4. Not Patrick,

      The real Patrick sent me an email confirming it's not him so my bad. That you are an acolyte of Pat's is pretty clear and that's fine. All that said, I am not at all convinced the anomalies pointed out by Patrick on early maps are at all connected to the Newport Tower. There are several reasons to believe this, not the least of which are new documents that have come to light in 2023, that name the architect and the engineer in charge of construction. Yes, I know this sounds fantastic, and it is fantastic, but when the time comes to share this information, I'm confident others will come to the same conclusion.

      I would also remind people that Jerry Lutgen is in the process of having a paper peer reviewed about the archaeoastronomy work he has done on the Tower concluding the primary alignment with the star Dubhe, in the northern sky, was most accurate circa 1400. This date is consistent with the multiple documents and maps we have that reference the "observatory" and with the creation and the long-range alignment with the Kensington Rune Stone.

      There is no compelling evidence of its creation being anytime nearly three centuries earlier. Just saying....

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  27. I feel after years of intuitive seeking that they've got the "M" sign all wrong... There is definitely something to it. Originally, the hand position wasn't a "sign" at all that you gave. In ancient palmistry dating back thousands of years, this very natural orientation of the hand where the the tendons grow together naturally this way when one spreads their hands - is a sign of the saints and the pure souls of light who came to help. I believe that it's a position that the tendons grow into depending on the unique soul projection of the individual - it has to do with energy conduction and soul projection into matter - it is only natural that such groups like the Masons or other Occult-obsessed secretive groups would over time, fancy themselves posing with the hand position as if they too possessed this sacred projection of soul orientation - Firstly, we're wrong to think it's a "sign". It never was a deliberate hand sign - it's just that occult groups turned it into as such. Mary most certainly naturally had this orientation of the hands, and so did Jesus. But to mimic this doesn't make you of the same soul origins. To mimic this doesn't make you a pure light who came to assist the planet. The masons and other groups will forever have JESUS/MARY ENVY and will always try to paint themselves as "special" above them. The templars, I do believe, held many secrets. I wouldn't doubt that they came to America... America has a very interesting destiny. It remains to be seen if it can actually be fulfilled under such powerful lying groups who are running the world currently.

    As for "13", in a very old Sophic document - it is explained that the 13th Aeon is like the highest level of dimensional creation - I'd even attribute it to the center of the galaxy. It is said that SOPHIA herself resides at the 13th - Is the 13th - and that the "12" regions of the zodiac, 12 this, 12 that, are like the macro-cosmic expressions which stemmed out from her center. And the tree of life goes on from there. 12 multiplied by 12 is 144 (the 144,000 co-creative original angelic souls which are assisting the planet), and so on. The 12 apostles were metaphorically arranged (think as above, so below) to recreate these conditions - and Mary Magdalene herself was a direct Sophic incarnation... They wouldn't have her, and after Jesus passed, he likely asked them to follow her in his absence. She went to France instead. Ask the french. It all goes back to France.

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    1. Whoever you are...

      First, the "M" sign is not a natural hand gesture at all. It has to done willfully. Second, the hand gesture is absolutely a sign of recognition between members of a certain Templar tradition I am a member of. It began being used by the order after the putdown in 1307. It is still be used and will be into the future.

      As for 13, here again it is the most sacred number to the Templars, along with the number 8, both of which belong to the Fibonacci sequence and gives rise to their veneration of the sacred Feminine. You have the 13th Eon and Sophia correct which again goes back to the Planet Venus and the sacred feminine.

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  28. What's wrong with aspiring to be better and helping others when you can? Anon: "The masons and other groups will forever have JESUS/MARY ENVY "

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    1. SteelWolf,

      Nothing is wrong with that. What does JESUS/MARY ENVY mean? In Freemasonry, Jesus is never mentioned. It's all about John the Baptist.

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