Tuesday, October 30, 2018

The Lost Templar Journals of Prince Henry Sinclair – Vol. 1


The following is the foreword I wrote for the first of multiple volumes of the journals of Earl Henry Sinclair and the journals of the next fourteen generations of Sinclair's (5) and Wemyss/Weems (10) clans.  The story that unfolds is nothing short of incredible: 

"The personal journal entries you are about to read are the first of several installments that are either the greatest story ever told, or the greatest hoax ever sold. Very strong words indeed, but in this particular case they are more than appropriate. When first contacted about the journals of Earl Henry Sinclair and his descendants, I scoffed and deleted the emails. The third attempt included photos of one of the journal pages, and one of a lambskin map - they got my attention. The email included Diana Muir’s phone number and I gave her a call. We quickly hit it off and after hearing about what she claimed to have, I invited her to Minnesota so I could introduce her to several friends; including several Freemasons to try and vet her story.

After the meeting, Diana shared the journal entries with me and after reading them I was convinced of one thing; if there was even one chance in a hundred that they were authentic, they had to be vetted thoroughly and carefully, for they were potentially far too historically important not to. Over the course of the next two-plus years, Masonic scholar and past Grand Master of Masons of Minnesota, Terry Tilton, and I dove into vetting the journals with a vengeance.  It quickly became apparent that if this were a hoax, it was a masterstroke of deviant genius that had to have involved several individuals with a vast array of knowledge in various disciplines to pull off.

If authentic, the history these documents contain is explosive and sheds important new light on many different aspects of history, as well as the individuals named in them over the course of just over four centuries (1353 to 1770). This first of three personal journal books - reportedly written by Earl Henry Sinclair - reveals many previously unknown details about his life and activities from the time he was eight years old until he was fifty-one in 1395. Some of the most interesting and important aspects of the entries in this volume include the following:
The Scottish Templars led by the Sinclair’s traveled to the “Western Lands” numerous times including Earl Henry’s father, William Sinclair II, who made the trip a total of seven times himself. Impossible to comprehend at first glance, the idea of frequent trips to North America becomes all the more plausible given the “Cremona Document” tells of Templar voyages coming to North America as early as 1179.  It seems a hoaxer would be more conservative in the number of trips knowing the context of currently accepted beliefs of historians that the Templars no longer existed in the mid to late Fourteenth Century, let alone ever made it to America.  The fallacy here was the idea of no pre-Columbian European contact has no factual supporting evidence and numerous documents, artifacts, and sites found in North America directly refute this erroneous narrative.

The young Earl Henry made numerous mentions of both old and new religious holidays and made numerous mentions of the ‘Great Goddess” who was central to his clan’s spiritual beliefs. These entries are also consistent with my own research into the true ideology of the Templars. The importance of the Goddess to Templars is also supported by numerous mentions within the Cremona Document. Their veneration of the Goddess lies at the heart of the success of the Templars secret medieval activities in North America - because they shared a similar ideology as the indigenous people they constantly interacted with and eventually assimilated with. Only a deeply knowledgeable person on a team of hoaxers could insert these aspects into the entries in such convincing fashion. Beyond myself and very few others, we know of no others who understand the complicated Goddess ideology of the Templar leadership.

Here is where one the most important realizations of this journal begins to emerge.  In multiple entries between 1373 and 1388, Earl Henry refers to what can only be a fugitive faction of medieval Knights Templar.  The “Templari” being sheltered in the Wemyss Caves are clearly supported by Earl Henry, the “Brethren”, and other important Scottish families most likely for their similar ideological beliefs and their service to King Robert the Bruce at Bannockburn in 1314.  These entries suggest, along with Earl Henry’s mention of Hiram Abiff, the apparent evolution of the strict asceticism and celibacy of medieval Templarism into an early version of speculative Freemasonic ideals.  The surviving Templars who had escaped to Scotland after 1307 were protected by the ruling families were no longer celibate after being outlawed by the Roman Catholic Church and monarchies in England and France.  Earl Henry and the Craft’s steadfast support of the “Templari” begs the question was this when and where the rites and rituals of medieval Templarism merged into speculative Freemasonry actively present in Scotland in the Fourteenth Century.  If so, this is a huge revelation and deserves to be researched in much greater depth for its potential impact on modern day Freemasonry is profound.        

The revelations of Earl Henry’s initiation into Freemasonry are detailed to the point that only someone who had experienced initiation into Templar rituals themselves could have written them, if this was a hoax. While not impossible, the likelihood a Freemason was involved in such a hoax is extremely remote given this type of nefarious activity goes against Masonic teachings. If authentic, these entries have enormous historical ramifications for Freemasonry that will be studied for many years to come.
Arguably one of the most important aspects of the later journal entries involves Earl Henry meeting the Italian navigators Nicolo and Antonio Zeno. One of the most controversial documents known from this period is called the “Zeno Narrative.” A descendant in the family reportedly restored letters that were alleged to have been written by Antonio Zeno in the Fourteenth Century after having been torn up by the family member as a child. The document reports numerous factual events, most of which are consistent with the information provided by Earl Henry upon meeting them. One important fact in the journals that differs from restored Zeno documents (which state that Nicolo and Antonio were brothers) is that according to Earl Henry, they were father and son.
For me personally, the most important entries by far deal with the “thirty men” that we learn came to the Western Lands to “…establish a settlement” in the spring of 1358.  It can only be referring to the party that carved the Kensington Rune Stone in 1362. The implications of the Kensington party entries are huge and appear to confirm nearly all the claims about the artifact I have made over the past eighteen years. While admittingly hopeful that the journals are authentic, due in no small part to these specific entries, it is also these entries that give me the most pause. They almost feel like they were written as a trap. On the other hand, would a hoaxer so blatantly pander to a known proponent like me by suggesting the Kensington inscription carver’s name? My collective research has proven the artifact authentic which means somebody connected to the Templars created it and the story that unfolds in these journals fits perfectly with what we already know.

I would remiss if I didn’t talk about my experiences with Diana over the past two and half years. While I am immensely frustrated with her decision to throw the original journals away, which were most likely copies of the originals, along with the lambskin map at a point of personal crisis, there is no mistaking she has done a phenomenal job of translating the Latin (and Old English in later journals) into modern English. She admits to likely making a few errors which would be suspicious if she hadn’t, but it appears she has done a masterful job of putting the entries of multiple individuals into readable modern text. Exactly how good of a job might never be fully known. However, three pages do survive from the years 1354, 1663, and 1731. Future testing of those pages should yield more information about Diana’s work and what these surviving pages really are.

I have also traveled to Tennessee to vet Diana’s story about where and how she came into possession of the journals. The archival building where she said she got them does exist and contains valuable information about the people who lived in that area at the time of, and after, the Revolutionary War and about the individuals who wrote the last six journals to be published in the future. So far, everything Terry Tilton, Diana Muir, and I have been able to vet has proven to be true and correct. However, many of the over 300 individuals mentioned by name in the journals, whether they were Templar knights, crew members, or Freemasons, have been impossible to determine. In fact, our inability to find any record of many of the individuals is exactly what should have happened. Even for Freemasons like Terry and I, who are allowed access to certain Masonic records non-Masons cannot, we were still not able to find confirming documents for many of the names listed. This begs the question of how and why a forger would make up so many names of people known to exist and others we can find no record of. That we still have many questions about these individuals actually supports authenticity of the documents. If all the names could be readily found by us, they could also be found by a forger. Details about this own research into our investigation of the journals will be presented in the future.

I invite the reader to decide for themselves if these captivating entries represent what amounts to the first installment of one of the greatest stories in the history of the world, or the most complex and secretive work of deception ever assembled. Whatever the eventual outcome, these works are nothing less than sheer brilliance."



For those people interested in a signed copy at half the publisher's price you can order directly from the author at http://dianamuir.blogspot.com/ 

200 comments:

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    1. I don't think you'll be disappointed. It's the beginning of a an amazing journey.

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  2. Scott,

    The part about "copies" and "throwing away originals" should be stated in the
    first paragraph. Sounds dubious.

    I have to ask, was Paul Knudson the carver of the KRS?

    Anthony Warren

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    1. Anthony,

      The story surrounding Diana and what she did with the journals is complicated and problematic. However, I have personally seen and held the lambskin map and several of the journals and related artifacts so I know they exist. I also have dozens of photographs of the originals pages that will become public in due time.

      The vetting process has been extensive and thorough. At this point, I'm 99% convinced the story is true. 100% confirmation will come when we pull something out of the ground we only learned about from the journals. We are pursuing that process and will report on the results in the coming days. Stay tuned.

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    2. No, Paul Knutson was not the carver of the KRS. That person's name is in the the first book of the journals. See if you can figure it out.

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    3. Scott, can you please share what your plans are going forward with this project and when you'll announce the items after you pull them out? thx

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    4. Joe,

      I will not be sharing our plans going forward as we need to keep things quiet and proceed very carefully. If and when we find something you can bet you'll hear about it.

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  3. Just ordered my copy!! can't wait to read. Larry Costa

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    1. Larry,

      Be sure to come back and share your thoughts. I'm sure whatever questions you might have I can give additional insight.

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  4. Got mine ordered..this should be really good. I'm really interested in the names.......

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  5. Unknown,

    There are several interesting names in this volume and there are literally hundreds more to come in future volumes.

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  6. Scott,

    Why did Henry Sinclair need the Zeno Father and Son? (If they were Freemasons, they were Brothers.) Why Henry would need the Zeno duo at all is perplexing to begin with. Especially if his father had made 7 trips himself. Why would someone hire another person for abilities already possessed? This aspect of the story has never made sense, and now even more so, due to all of the previous voyages. I hope, I'm not overlooking the obvious.

    Anthony Warren

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    1. Anthony,

      You obviously haven't read the journal entries yet. Once you do it will all make sense. I don't want to spoil the story for others who plan to read the book, but the Zeno entries are fascinating and, assuming the journals are real, bring several new details and clarity to the Zeno narrative which I think we can now safely conclude is NOT a forgery.

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    2. The Zenos were not Freemasons as they didn't exist at that time. And Henry didn't hire them, he just kept them from going home and tried to garner Nicolo's knowledge about navigating, ship building and the other things that he knew such as strategy. Nicolo had commanded a fleet in Italy, so he knew a lot about that Henry hadn't figured out yet. You have to remember Orkney was constantly fighting off sea pirates. Just because his father (who died when he was 12) made multiple trips doesn't mean than Henry knew the route or how to manage the ship. As a child I'm sure he just sat back and enjoyed the scenery. Perhaps if his father hadn't died he might have imparted some of that knowledge, but it simply didn't happen. Besides, after reading about some of the issues Zeno had at home, he was probably glad to be distracted and in no hurry to return.

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    3. Diana,

      It's clear in this first journal that Earl Henry had great respect for the experienced and knowledgeable ship caption. Even Earl Henry's men respected Nicolo to the point he was made essentially admiral of the Sinclair fleet. It's also notable that Earl Henry wrote the Zeno's were "men of the Craft" from an Italian lineage who were Templar knights.

      What I most enjoyed was comparing the corroborating points in the journals also found in the Zeno Narrative. I've done a deep dive into these specific points I'll share in book following "Cryptic Code."

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  7. Scott, thanks for sharing this amazing historical find! I've read your past books and can't get enough! I look forward to reading this piece! Thanks again Scott for being the voice and truth of our past!

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    1. Unknown,

      This book and the ones to come in this series might be the most captivating stories I've ever read and they ring true start to finish. Enjoy the ride and we'll see how the archaeology turns out. It should be very interesting.

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  8. I noticed that Colavito claims he contacted me and asked for copies of the Latin text. Colavito has NEVER contacted me, even though my email is clearly at the top of my blog. He seems to have a very vivid imagination.

    Someone also asked me a few days ago about the providence of the journals. "How could Scottish journals end up in Tennessee?" The answer is actually very simple. They were passed from father to son for 4 generations and then Katherine Sinclair (who married Earl David Wemyss of Wemyss) transferred them to her husbands care rather than trust her father (William and the Waster and her brother) to care for them. They then came down through many generations of Wemyss to John Wemyss, a member of the British military, who settled near Philadelphia, PA when the US was still a British colony. His son, John Jr, moved to Greene Co., TN where he died in 1812. John Weems Jr was my 3rd ggrandfather. I hope that helps.

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    1. Diana,

      That the debunker made a false claim is not surprising, but I wouldn't worry about it at all. His constant name-calling and over-the-top negativity about anything and everything I am involved in doesn't deserve attention and certainly doesn't merit a response. Don't give him any oxygen; simply ignore him and his negative and irrelevant rants will eventually go away.

      This is one of many questions that will become self-evident when the other journals are eventually published. It'll be interesting to see what resonates with people who read the first book. Wonder if they will catch the entries dealing the KRS party?

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    2. FYI Scott,

      He has a screenshot of her correspondence. My Taurus meter is pegged. Very disappointing.

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    3. Anonymous,

      Who is "he" and what correspondence does he have a screenshot of?

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    4. Anonymous,

      Oh... Then that correspondence is irrelevant. Never mind.

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    5. She contacted him! Then apparently lied about it. This reeks of a Mormon Hoax! That cult has more stroke than they're given credit for.

      I wish this were real. Maybe more so than most. After a few days of internet searches, I've no confidence in her story. It really seems like some faction associated with LDS is attempting to hijack the KRS for themselves.

      It is your rep on the line, not mine.

      "Is it easier to fake 3 pages, or 20 volumes?" I have to agree with Jim.

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    6. Anonymous,

      Then it is still irrelevant. Mormon hoax huh? First, have you read the book yet? I didn't think so. Let's be clear, is Diana a perfect person? No, but then neither are you or me. Frankly, the claims you're making about the Mormon Church are pretty silly and I have no reason to defend them. Especially, given the lack of any facts to support your assertion. It might interest you to know that I have personally inspected some of the journals and the lambskin map. I can't say with 100% certainly they are authentic, but they looked good to me.

      I can also tell you categorically, Diana could never have written these journals that include over 300 names, many of them we have been able to prove existed, were indeed Freemasons, and lived at the time periods recorded. No one person could have written these and even with the army of Masonic scholars we have had at our disposal, they couldn't have done it either. This will become evident as subsequent journals are published.

      That said, final confirmation will only come if, and when, we dig something out of the ground we came to learn about only through the journals. Until then, we can flap our gums all we want, but it'll remain an open question. Therefore, there is no need to draw a premature conclusion.

      Until that happens, I would keep an open mind and enjoy the journals for the previously unknown and amazing history they contain. Don't stress yourself out, a definitive answer will come in the near future.

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    7. Scott,

      You've obviously never Googled your name. If you had, you may have noticed a whole slew of Mormon Zealots attempting to use your work to prove the veracity of their cult. I am very open-minded. I do not doubt the authenticity of the KRS. My Taurus meter is pegged with Ms. Muir's changing story. I can see the steam rising, and a few flies. Just waiting to see what grows out of it.

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    8. Anonymous,

      I'm well aware that some Mormons have latched onto my research trying to prove their beliefs. Did Hebrews come to this continent circa the 1st Century? The evidence says, yes. Does it prove the Book of Mormon? No. Having said that, there are some interesting elements within the book that suggest possible prior knowledge of ancient historical events that are now being proven to have occurred. I find this interesting, but in no way does it prove a faith that was created based on Masonic principles of the mid 19th Century.

      You are correct that Diana's story has changed and some information she has provided has not been correct. However, this does not disprove the journals whose veracity will either stand or fall based on their own merit or lack thereof. As I said, if we find something buried in the ground that was only known from the journals then it'll be party time.

      Until then, you would be wise to wait with patience my brother...

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    9. Well, I'd suggest buying a fly swatter then. My story regarding how I acquired the journals has never changed even though some have claimed I stole them. What changed was the fact that I threw them away after being convinced they were fraudulent and didn't tell Scott for almost a year. When I threw them away I didn't know Scott well and had only met him 2x, and the other person in the equation - never, only on the phone. I'd heard all the good and the bad and hadn't learned to trust him yet. Yes, I made up a story as to why I didn't have them, based on something that had happened 10 years ago. But I was paranoid, scared and I panicked. I may have lied about that but I've never changed my story about how I got them, what they are or what they say. My interpretations have changed as I've gained more knowledge, but that's only natural. Life isn't perfect, I'm not perfect and never claimed to be. I could be Jeffrey Dahmer and it still wouldn't change the veracity of the journals. I also don't ask anyone to accept what I say without question. Read the book, challenge the sources, do your own research and decide for yourself. If nothing else, it will start a conversation.

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    10. Ms. Muir,

      I am challenging the sources. Apparently, YOU are the source. As for written materials... YOU are also the source. At the very least the caretaker for them. IF...they are real, burnt, buried, thrown away, or whatever excuse you haven't deleted yet. The trolls you've invited upon yourself are like my grandmother, they save everything.

      If you were Jeffrey Dahmer... You'd be dead. He was beaten to death with broom handles shortly after being introduced into general population.

      I must say... You deflect your responses about as well as the usually blonde haired, blue eyed young men in khakis and a white shirt, knocking upon my door to discuss their cult. Did the LDS repackage Hitler Youth? Sure seems like it, when you make the mistake of answering your door.



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    11. Anonymous,

      Being a troll is nothing to brag about. Diana has told you what she is going to tell you and that’s that. Be as skeptical as you want, but don’t come on here to make veiled threats and say stupid things.

      You apparently haven't figure out the journals and their questionable provenance are separate issues. If they continue to vet out and we can find archaeological evidence that came directly from the entries, it's done. Until then, clean up your act and be more professional.

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    12. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The sources are clearly stated in the book that I've used to try and verify some of the information. No Wikipedia references at all. As for the rest, I'm sorry you feel you have to lash out at the Mormons. We're certainly not repackaging Hilter Youth and the two missionaries in my own ward are dark haired, brown eyed. In fact one is black. Please come back after you've read the book and we can talk about facts, not hate filled inuendos.

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    13. I may have let my dislike for cults to get the better of me, however, I never, in any way, shape, or form make any threats. Veiled or otherwise. If you're referring to the Dahmer comment, I simply stated a fact. Ms. Muir brought up Dahmer herself. He was murdered within hours of being released into the prison's general pop. That's not a threat. That's actual factual documented history.

      It's hard to tell what the facts actually are, when everything keeps getting deleted.

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    14. Anonymous,

      I'm well aware of what happened to Dahmer and will take you at your word about the threat. Diana made a mistake posting on the debunker's blog. I warned her it was hate blog so she deleted her posts and will not be back.

      She is happy to answer tough questions here as long as the discussion is civil and productive. Cool?

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    15. Cool with me:
      Diana, you seem to be a very well educated person. Did you bring these document to a qualified historian or University for their opinion first and if so what was their response?
      Or was your first choice Scott and Hutton ?

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    16. Actually I did take them to a major university with an archaeology and anthropology department. It's also a major research university. When I told them what I "thought" I had, they declined to deal with them because they didn't want to tarnish their reputation by dealing with fringe science. I was brought up in a very traditional school system that was aligned to national and state standards, always teaching the 'approved' curriculum. Although I was very familiar with colonial American history, I'd never heard of people like Farley Mowat and had no idea there were alternative theories of history out there. When the university declined to become involved, I sought out those some consider to be in 'fringe science' realm wondering if they could help. I contacted Scott way back in 2013 through Facebook. He didn't respond, because he wasn't on FB and didn't see it. I then reached out to someone from another show and although we traded phone messages once or twice it took a year and a half before I finally spoke to someone on the phone. Although we talked for 90 minutes and were in tentative negotiations, just a week or so later Scott called me. Someone close to me had shared some pics of the map with him and it piqued his interest. Scott turned out to be the best person to work with, concerning the content. He's been able to connect me with people who could explain what some of the entries meant, and other experts on the Sinclair family and cartography. He and Janet have been instrumental in backing up some of my own research and adding to it in areas I didn't understand. It also has nothing to do with the LDS church. In fact at the time I found the journals I was inactive in the church because I was working 24/7/365 on my online school, of which I was the founder. Even now I don't talk about it with church members because some elements go against church teachings. I made a lot of mistakes along the way but working with Scott was never one of them.

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    17. Anonymous and all,

      I respectfully ask that readers refrain from cutting and pasting the text of my blog posts, or comments made by myself and others, on other blog sites. I know it's happened repeatedly and I want it to stop. It's unethical to do so without permission and just plain bush league.

      Thanks.

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    18. It seems that the 'grand debunker' did try to reach me, but through Twitter. He was apparently responding to a mass message I'd sent out through Twitter, which I never use. For some reason he thinks the book is $95; sorry only $40. Regardless, he is blocked now and won't be getting any more Twitter feed.

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    19. Diana,

      Scott will no doubt call this a "gotcha" but you tweeted someone, albeit as part of a mass mailing. Then he responded and you ignored it. It's not that you "never use" Twitter, it's that you're using it wrong. You've blocked him so clearly you do use Twitter. I don't have a Twitter account so I can honestly say I never use it.

      Mary Mason

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    20. Mary Mason,

      So what is your point? There is no need to be paranoid, all I'm asking is for people to be respectful in their posts and dispense with the nastiness. It's fine to have a little fun and if there's an issue or you don't buy something said it's fair to bring it up. It's the troll behavior that won't be tolerated, and even though some might find it silly, please don't post as "anonymous." Have the decency to put your name behind your words. And is you don't have the courage to stand behind your comments, at least make up something believable like "Mary Mason."

      Thanks

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  9. Scott, the last two years have been the most exciting ever. This is off the charts and will certainly be a great part of our history. It would be next to impossible to create a hoax this elaborate. I appreciate your diligence in following through on all this this information, There is a lot to get your head around but you have done a great job and more! Janet deserves a lot of credit for her contribution. She rocks!!
    There is nothing that will change the debunkers minds as they still have to come forward with even a bit of evidence to prove the KRS a hoax. All we see is speculation and nonsense. Let them sit and stew on this one. Keep it up pal, I am enjoying the ride! -- Darwin Ohman

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    1. Darwin,

      The vetting process has had its share of exhilarating moments for sure. That night we read the entries that first time and realized it could only be the Kensington party he was referring to was a moment neither of us will forget. Even more mind-blowing was re-reading the entries the next morning and realizing we had missed the entry where the young Earl Henry had inadvertently recorded what almost certainly must be the name of the monk who carved the inscription. Simply amazing, if true...

      Janet certainly has made important contributions as has Past GM Terry Tilton. He is a true scholar and continues to help with the vetting process.

      The debunkers are irrelevant. Let's continue on with our work and if we find any one of the items mentioned in the journals they will be proven authentic even without the original documents Diana once had.

      Time will tell, but for now, buckle up and keep on having fun!

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  10. ** 2500 BC Crete - Temple of Knossos

    God Proximo chosen to mix with Israelites to preserve the body
    Descending genetic line is held with the Herculean Sampson
    God Zeus chooses those who may pass to the city of Troia

    ** 1200 BC - Greece moves to Rome, Egypt to Carthage

    The Pillars of Hercules are established, Italy & Carthage
    Sicily is home to the new 'Gods' to preserve the mind
    Zeus' Deluge takes Olmecs from Thracian fields

    ** 1100 BC - First colonies established in America

    Templar Order is constructed from 'Temple of Knossos Guard'
    Cretan Guard lays the foundations for Scotland/Scandinavia
    God Mar chooses Indians who may pass north to Mesoamerica

    ** 754 BC - Gaul Knights fall, Rome replaces Villa Nova

    Thera - ringed fortress of Atlantis is constructed in Carthage

    ** 250 BC - Carthage falls in Punic Wars

    Mayan civilization begins from Phoenician sect

    ** 133 BC - Roman Zeus 'Tiberius Sempronius Gracchus'

    Governor of Carthage, last ruler of Spartans, emerging Pirate
    Religion of Thor begins with Alexander the Great's Persian kin
    Teotihuacan ends, Templar burned at Battle of Uppsala Sound

    ** 791 AD - Toltec civilization begins

    Islamic Portage to America from Western Macedonia (Africa)
    Moors brought to America to genetically improve Troglodytes
    Great Schism begins, church divides East & West

    ** 1002 AD - Alamo Incursion begins

    Ethnic cleansing of White People in America initiated
    Skraelingar and Stave Uprising halts travel to East Coast
    Viking Age comes to an end - 1068 AD

    ** 1325 AD - Aztec civilization begins

    Knights of Malta canvas the arena - Tenochtitlan
    Line of Tiberius Sempronius Gracchus evolves into pirates,
    Henry Bartholomeus to Henry Bartholomew to King Henry VIII

    ** 1438 AD - Incan civilization begins

    Teutonic Knights travel from Black Sea to Atlantis
    Capital of Byzantine Empire - 1453 AD
    The Punic Wars continue with Spanish Invasion - 1492 AD

    ** Atlantis falls - Line of King Henry goes to Ireland & England

    * Skeptics obtain jobs, for history is written by the bloody victors
    * Skeptics ignore Mesoamerican pyramids as fact
    * Skeptics ignore Mars' Equatorian caves as fact
    * Skeptics ignore Greek Temples tossed in ocean as fact
    * Skeptics deny Grecco-Roman war exists because conquering forces burn or confiscate libraries so no evidence exists
    * Skeptics deny Vikings ever existed in America because they keep finding ancient keels buried all over the eastern coast

    Who wants to know where the Templar treasure is?
    Who wants to know where the last Holy Grail was found?

    * I'm a skeptic with evidence that proves me wrong.

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    1. Eirik,

      Your overall point about interesting and important history having been suppressed by the RC Church and other intellectually oppressive regimes is one that must never be forgotten. Their efforts continue in earnest today as evidenced by dogmatic, nonsensical and persistent debunker mentality that hounds anything that challenges the narrative. That fact in itself is powerful evidence we are on the right track.

      On one of the Sinclair blog sites a question was asked if there was any information in the journals about William "The Builder" Sinclair and Rosslyn Chapel. The answer is yes, but that story will have to wait for the proper time.

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  11. Oh yeah I forgot...

    Do you know why the Oak Island pit never yielded treasure?

    It's because they are digging in a latrine! When you have 100 Vikings who haven't had a proper bathroom break over their long voyage from Greenland, you really gotta go. Archimedes designed a boring screw to bring in ocean water to create a septic system so the water around the island didn't become polluted.

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    1. Eirik,

      The reason the island has never yielded any treasure is because there wasn't any treasure there to begin with. Truth be told, even if there was treasure there at one time it was recovered long ago. However, according to the Sinclair journals, there was no Templar treasure hidden there. Further, the Templars would NEVER put all their eggs in one basket.

      Did anyone ever consider OI was a decoy site? If so, it has and continues to work to perfection.

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    2. They have started to find things on Oak island, notably a cross that resembles a goddess figure, supposedly to be very old. they had mentioned seeing a sinilar carving at a templar prison. Reminds me of what was mentioned.

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    3. Unknown,

      I'm not convinced the cross wasn't a plant. They faked the Hooked X discovery so why wouldn't they continue to plant things to keep the show going. The truth is, they would.

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  12. Mr. Sinclair,

    I can only assume from your post that you are familiar with Michel Cerveau-Foutu's research on the genesis of the Canadian Maritimes Cod Fishing Banks?

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  13. There are many assumptions one has to make to believe in this. Each assumption would constitute a separate claim that requires ample evidence, especially given how unlikely they are, even individually.

    Here is just a partial list. That the Knights Templar had interest in explanation despite a mission statement that had to do with Jerusalem and related areas. That they knew the American continent existed. That they wanted to go there for some reason. That they could. That they did. That Sinclair was with them despite existing some time after they were suppressed, tortured, and killed. That he kept a journal (not, say, a subordinate writing in his name). That it was accurate. That it was copied, accurately, probably more than one time. That both the originals and the copes were in Latin. (Medieval Church Latin? Roman Latin? Some hybrid?) That the original or a copy was found. That it was translated accurately. That we can't verify all this because the originals or copies or whatever they were, mostly were destroyed. That we shouldn't be particularly alarmed by that.

    -An Anonymous Nerd

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    1. Nerd,

      First off, the veracity of the journals is not a matter of faith or “belief”, it’s a matter of evidence. Second, “unlikely” is your opinion and taints any further comments you makes. Right off the bat you are not showing the attributes of an objective investigator.

      You are incorrectly framing the argument from the outset saying the only mission the Templars had was focused on Jerusalem. This is false. Jerusalem was only part of their long-range plans. It served as a base of operations for less than a century and when they had rounded up what they came for they gave it up. The plan was always to establish the sanctuary in North America.

      Of course they went there for a reason, it is clearly stated in the journals which you obviously have not read yet. It is also obvious Earl Henry wrote his entries as it was his obligation that becomes apparent upon reading them. Fugitive Templars that survived after 1307 and fled to Scotland were protected by the dominant clans after serving in Bannockburn. However, since they had been outlawed the order began to evolve into something different. For example, celibacy demanded by the Church was no longer necessary and to continue they had to procreate.

      I have personally examined some of the originals and am convinced they are copies of older documents. I have also seen the lambskin map which appears to be original. Regardless, we have already found errors in Diana’s translations, but they are minor. The vast majority of her translations appear to be good. The overall story is cohesive and consistent.

      To even make a claim the Templars didn’t know about North America, or that they couldn’t get there, is pure nonsense. They traveled to the “Western Lands” frequently, they just didn’t tell anyone about it.

      Until now.

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    2. "western Lands" = Cod Banks, BAM!!!

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    3. Fishing for Cod was the cover story of course...

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    4. It goes far far deeper than a cover story. But we both know that.

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    5. Absolutely, this book is only the beginning of a much bigger story.

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    6. Part of the story can be found in comparing proto-Beothuk language and European languages to explore the similarities in vocabulary concerning cod fish and associated fishing technology and food preparation strategies.

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    7. You make good points here. Earl Henry makes mention of the indigenous people speaking Gaelic words. I'm sure there's a lot more to be mined there.

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    8. Yes, fishing for 'white fish' (cod) was the cover story and on all trips he made to the Americas they brought back cod for their families. Henry did mention that they understood some Gaelic and Latin words, which they must have learned from previous voyages. It would be interesting to investigate the indigenous languages and see how they might have been influenced by the Basque, Europeans and Vikings who may have visited there.

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  14. And yes, they were in Latin, to begin with, with some Scotch-Gaelic words sprinkled throughout. Later ones were in Old English and the last ones were in fairly modern English.

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  15. Bro. Wolter
    I wonder if you are familiar with First Templar Nation by Freddy Silva. Interesting book covering the Cistercians and and "proto-Templars" (i.e. pre-1119) from France who apparently helped spearhead the independence of Portugal (1128 and 1139), among other things. Financing likely came from what they found in Jerusalem. Potential documentation is referenced within and would support the ideas. I'm skeptical but it's nevertheless absolutely fascinating if true.
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    1. Bro Durgin,

      Yes, I am familiar with the book, but haven't purchased it yet. Sounds like a must read. What the "proto-Templars" found under the South Wall in Jerusalem is detailed in another controversial document I call the "Cremona Document", that has recently came to light. This items are specific and important, but does not encompass what we know they compiled during their time in the Holy Land. What those items were will become known in due time. The point is, the Templars obtained treasures in other countries in the region in the Twelfth Century. There is vast trove of previously unknown medieval Templar history that is only now coming to light.

      I plan on posting a blog about Donald Ruh's book detailing his nearly half century-long experience with the document in the coming days. I have worked with Don, and others, investigating the Cremona Document for the past thirteen years and am 99.9% convinced this Templar story is also true. What is truly amazing is these two sets of documents, from two unrelated sources from two different modern time periods, independently corroborate each other. It's going to be an amazing period of revelations, one way or the other, in the next couple of years.

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  16. I know that when the "Jack the Ripper" Diaries came out, one of the big tests done on them to prove they were hoaxes were ink tests. Has there been any Thin Layer Chromatography or Gas Chromatography done on the lambskin map? Carbon dating would be a big help as well.

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    1. Jeff,

      This is a good suggestion and we are planning to perform these and other tests. We just have not done them yet.

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  17. Scott,

    Have you done any research on Mounds Park, MN? I was told a Templar shield was found there. Also, it is the site where the Normans took out the last of the Viking ships travelling up the Mississippi. Out with the old guard and in with the new guard.

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    1. Eagle Feather,

      Yes, I have been to Mounds Park, but never heard the story about a Templar shield being found there. If so, I wonder if it resides as a sacred relic within the Ojibwa?

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    2. I've also heard of Viking artifacts being found in the mounds down the Mississippi and also in Tennessee. Makes me want to get out a map of the US and put pins in places where Viking artifacts have been found. I know a few on the St Lawrence River and the legend of Ronyawaya but need to do more research on that subject.

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  18. Have to throw this one out there...

    People in blogs typically are skeptical of everything, thus the term skeptic. Therefore, if I asked if a T-Rex ever existed, skeptics would say no there is no documentation. If an archeologist says he has fossils, then the answer is yes the T-Rex did exist. Yet, no skeptic ever says, it was a large alligator that was caught in a mud slide that gave it its signature shape. My personal belief is that people are very well informed and know the truth. Skeptics are simply in charge of getting rid of the old and establishing the new.

    Thus, we have evidence. Through my studies, it is easy to point out the time loop which shows up over and over throughout history. Such as the golden fleece... something to send the old out to get, so that they would get killed. Therefore, we have the Holy Grail in medieval times. That which the Knights whose bellies grew with their power were sent out to find, which most ended up getting killed by a larger force (ex. indians) rather than succeed with their technological superiority. A few Knights would be successful and would then be reborn, a.k.a. resurrected. The Holy Girl. When interest waned, a champion would find their prize. In modern times, we have men chasing after other things of interest. Whereas, the Oracles, Mary Magdelene, Lady Liberty, etc. sent their men out on their quests to die. And a new breed would then replace the old with a new breed which was skinnier, had more hair, more to the liking of women. History erased, because no one wants to advertise that they killed their own family.

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  19. I've been following some of the Facebook posts and I'm constantly amazed at the people who criticize the book without even having read it. It speaks of a closed mind. I hope that everyone will take the opportunity to learn something new and withhold judgement until they're read it. After all, I'm not asking people to accept it line hook and sinker, but to read the entries and the research backing it up and to make their own decisions. I hope everyone will accept the challenge!

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    1. Dr. Muir,

      Did you encounter any references to cod or cod fishing technology in the parchments? Or any such terminology that may have been secret allusions to these?

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    2. Oh yes, several references in the journals. Plus when learning more about the Orkney culture there are numerous references to fishing for the white fish in the western lands. Usually they went as far as the western side of Greenland, but with all the artifacts around the Hudson Bay, it seems they went much further. One of the journal entries even refers to one of the Scots teaching them how to use nets.

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  20. Ms. Muir,

    With all due respect I suspect they are less criticising the book itself than the rather curious circumstances. You decided it was a hoax and threw it away, then decided it wasn't a hoax and translated it. Surely you can understand how curious that sounds?

    Regards,

    Roderick

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    1. I totally understand their skepticism. Actually I translated them before throwing them away. Someone I trusted and respected on one of the Sinclair websites told me they had to be a hoax. Otherwise the Sinclairs would have known about them. At the time I didn't know as much about Sinclair history, Orkney (had to look it up on the map!) or anything at all about Templar or Freemason History. There were entries that I couldn't understand so when someone told me they had to be an 18th century hoax, I believed them. I'd heard the stories of how the finder of the Kensington Rune Stone was maligned and how others who have found things have even committed suicide. I didn't want to be 'that' person who perpetrated the biggest hoax in history. So I threw them away... I didn't want to deal with the backlash. However, I still had the translations. I actually didn't tell Scott I'd thrown them away and kept hedging when he'd ask me for the originals. When I finally told him, he walked away for a while. It was the worst mistake of my life, but I think he understands now why I did it. Now that we've been vetting the people, events, places and references in the journals, I know they're real. Some of the the things written could only have been written if you'd been there at the time. We've yet to find any red flags although there are some things we can't prove because there are no records before 1600 in Orkney or Scotland and what few are left are very sketchy. I think as more of the journals are printed you'll see the extensive research we've done to try and identify some of the people and events.

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    2. I don't feel it is productive to agonize over what we can't change. As Diana said, over the past 2-1/2 years of intense vetting we have several yellow flags (questions without answers), but no red flags that suggest something nefarious. That said, while the immense quantity of specific and detailed information makes a hoax virtually impossible, final confirmation can only come if previously unknown sites and articles are found, in proper archaeological context. If they are found, then we have to completely rewrite the historical narrative of how the United States of America was founded.

      If I were the academics, I'd get my keyboard ready.

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  21. 1972-Mounds Park Minnesota
    A group of us kids were ushered through the park. Tripods were set up all around one of the mounds. The teacher was excited, she stated that they determined a very large gentleman was buried and surrounded by a host of smaller individuals. She stated that they believed a shield was set over the large man. It was all abuzz if the shield was wooden or metal? A scientific looking man walked up to me as I passed by. He stated that they were going to find out what happened here. If I wasn't a child, I think he would have spit on me by the way he looked at me. There was talk that they couldn't dig into the mound. Teacher said they have other ways...
    Reference material-Battle of Hastings (1066). Two years before the Skraelingar and Stave Uprising in 1068 AD.
    Worth a show if someone could be found to explain what they were doing? What they may have hid? What they may have found?

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  22. 1. America was discovered between 1300-1200 BC by Phoenicians, the Greenland Sagas commenced in 1200 BC.
    2. Tartarus (Pre-Egypt) was moved to America in 1100 BC. A formation of Knights were created to police America.
    3. The Gaul Knights were defeated in 754 BC giving rise to the Roman Republic & Empire that defeated Carthage in Punic Wars.
    4. Tiberius Sempronius Gracchus, the Roman Zeus from Carthage, shipped all men over 300 pounds to America in 133 BC.
    5. Odin's Cobblestone Court was brought to America at the turn of the century. Mecca memorialized his departure as Allah.
    6. The Kingdom of Naples was sent to Arcadia (Florida) in 79 AD when Mt. Vesuvius erupted & covered Herculaneum with ash.
    7. Teotihuacan (The Religion of Thor) operated until 791 AD when it was defeated at the Battle for Uppsala Sound in Sweden.
    8. A Skraelingar and Stave uprising took out every Viking ship as they descended from Vineland Station to Roanoke Island
    9. Lief Ericsson's ship was the only one to survive, he entered America through theTemplar portal in Hudson Bay Canada
    10. Retrieving all the men from the Midgaard Serpant (Mississippi River) the Nordic bloodline was preserved in 985 AD.
    11. The Alamo Incursion occurred in 1002 AD, and the Indians of South America swarmed into North America.
    12. A Federated States of Amerigan began in 1040 AD, the Vikings were crushed in 1066 AD by the Norman Conquest.
    13. Mounds Park Minnesota is the site for which the Battle of Hastings took place.
    14. The St. Clare Expeditions returned the Europeans to America in 1255 AD.
    15. The men of the Sinclair Expeditions were found dead in 1362 AD.
    16. In 1402 AD, Henry Sinclair was on his deathbed. He commissioned his son to return to America.
    17. The Kensington Runestone was the centerpiece of a circular memorial erected at the lines intersecting the 2 Templar portals.
    18. As America was being colonized, the Runestone was buried to avoid its destruction.
    19. A tree was planted on its location when the Sinclair family returned to its homeland.
    20. It was intentionally dug up to show evidence of America's earliest beginnings.

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    1. Eagle Feather,

      interesting historical take that in many ways makes sense. However, the Copper Culture was here long before 1300 B.C. and idea of portals is interesting. Unfortunately, I can't offer much assistance on that note.

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  23. Based on what I have read I have a few questions that I think are honest and straightforward.

    1.The claim is that the materials were thoroughly vetted. Was there anyone involved in the vetting process who is fluent in Latin, Old English, and who has an expert understanding of earlier forms of modern English. What are their qualifying credentials? Also, was there anyone qualified to assess the authenticity of the gaelic words found in the Latin text relevant to the time period in question? If yes, who were they and what are their specific qualifying credentials?

    2.There is a claim that some of the original materials are still in the author's possession. Among those involved in the vetting process, was anyone qualified as an expert to assess the authenticity/age of the actual writing materials? If yes, then who were they and what are their specific relevant credentials?

    3.The author claims to have taken the original materials to one university for examination, but that the institution declined to do so. Does this really constitute a good faith effort to determine authenticity as opposed to contacting multiple institutions if one feels that they have materials of such great importance? Aren't there private companies who would be happy to analyze historical documents and who could probably give at least a preliminary assessment for a modest fee?

    4.For the sake of independent verification, would the author be willing to identify the institution and faculty that she approached to examine her materials?

    Please note, I have not read the book. However, I believe that the questions that I have asked are the type that most authors would be happy to discuss in the course of discussing/promoting a new book in a social media forum where the vast majority of the audience have not yet read their book. Can you really blame people if they are not happy with "you just have to read the book" and are reluctant to purchase a rather controversial book unless some sort of minimal standard is met in terms of establishing the author's bonifides?

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    1. R. Denham,

      I'm sure Diana will be happy to answer your questions. What I can tell you is we have had qualified experts look at the Latin and Old English. Their opinion the writing was likely copied in more recent times; most likely the 1850s.

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    2. Mr. Denham, I've identified the Univ to Scott and have called the DNA lab there to track down an independent researcher who did his own tests on the documents, outside of the university's realm of influence. This was 5 years ago and unfortunately the intermediary between me and the researcher has moved on. When I spoke to the DNA lab they said that only that particular researcher would have the results, and I don't know his name. However, Scott and another who is helping to vet them has presented them to researchers in Scotland who are familiar not only with medieval writing (and Scotch-Gaelic) but the Sinclair family as well. There are a few pages left, and copies of many pages. They are all in Scott's possession not mine. As to why I didn't take them to another institution? I'd already approached 1 museum prior to the University and both said to send them to the Smithsonian. Not trusting the Smithsonian, I opted for a private searcher.

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    3. Diana,

      You mentioned that you had communicated with an expert in Cardiff, Wales, who said it made sense that fugitive Templars would have lived in the Wemyss Caves as noted in the journals. What was the researchers name and what else did she say?

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  24. Her name is Helen Nicholson and she is a Professor of Medieval History at Cardiff, Wales. Gerald Sinclair actually referred her to me and she's been very kind in answering my questions. I wanted to know if there were any lists of Templars from Scotland and she responded that there are no 'membership' lists that she knows of and that they would most likely have been private and not public knowledge. She did give me a few clues on where to start searching and the name of another researcher in France who was compiling a list of Templars in Europe, dependent on the Templar Trials. She's going to send me a copy of her list of Templars in Scotland in 1308 and in return I'm going to share the crew lists that Henry's cleric had recorded, in hopes that some of the names will match. She has several publications including "The Everyday Life of Templars: Templars at Home" using 14thC documents. It's at https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Life-Templars-Knights-Templar/dp/1781553734/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1542845459&sr=1-3&refinements=p_27%3AHelen+Nicholson&tag=julsbuttemb-20 if anyone wants to check it out. https://www.amazon.com/Everyday-Life-Templars-Knights-Templar/dp/1781553734/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1542845459&sr=1-3&refinements=p_27%3AHelen+Nicholson&tag=julsbuttemb-20

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  25. Forgot one thing.... She said it would totally believable that the disavowed Templars would hide out in the Wemyss Caves. They were on the ocean/sea and they did the same thing in Wales. I actually saw a series/movie called "The Bastard Executioner" that showed Knights Templars hiding in the caves of Wales.

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    1. Diana,
      I am not sure I understand, you were having the journals tested for DNA ? Wouldn't it be better to test for their age and veracity? Why DNA ?
      Do the journals mention anything about why the Sinclairs would testify against the Templars in their trials if they were in fact Templars themselves?
      Also I would re ask some of Mr. Denhams questions that you didn,t answer:
      1.The claim is that the materials were thoroughly vetted. Was there anyone involved in the vetting process who is fluent in Latin, Old English, and who has an expert understanding of earlier forms of modern English. What are their qualifying credentials? Also, was there anyone qualified to assess the authenticity of the gaelic words found in the Latin text relevant to the time period in question? If yes, who were they and what are their specific qualifying credentials?
      2.There is a claim that some of the original materials are still in the author's possession. Among those involved in the vetting process, was anyone qualified as an expert to assess the authenticity/age of the actual writing materials? If yes, then who were they and what are their specific relevant credentials?
      4.For the sake of independent verification, would the author be willing to identify the institution and faculty that she approached to examine her materials?

      I also wonder why you would not trust the Smithsonian ?
      They have a very good reputation and unless you believe the unsubstantiated sillyness about them hiding giants etc. They would seen like a great choice for vetting these journals.

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    2. Bob,

      I will let Diana respond to the DNA question that relates to an alleged blood spot on one of the Earl Henry Sinclair pages she has yet to publish.

      I can speak to the fact that PGMMN (Past Grand Master of Masons in Minnesota) Terry Tilton and I have had the three surviving pages, one in Latin, one in Old English, and one in modern English, sent to Masonic scholars in the appropriate languages in Scotland. An opinion was offered the Latin and Old English were not quite consistent with the period and he suggested other opinions be sought by other experts which will happen. While I am quite confident the older journals were copied, most likely in the mid-19th Century, more research will be performed on those surviving pages as well as archaeological investigations based on content. This book is only the beginning of a much bigger story.

      With regard to the Smithsonian, they absolutely cannot be trusted as I have witnessed first hand with the Kensington Rune Stone, Bat Creek Stone, Tucson Lead Artifacts, etc. (See my Thursday, February 6, 2014, blog post for a sample of their idiocy). They were the worst offenders throughout this country's history of protecting the paradigm of "Columbus first" at all costs. That narrative of nonsense is finally beginning to change, but I still wouldn't trust the institution as far any farther than I can throw it.

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  26. Bob Young, (my step father's name by the way. :-)

    Yes, I had asked to have one of the journal pages tested for DNA because there appeared to be a blood spot on the last page of Henry's journals.I also wanted DNA run on the lambskin map. At the time I had all the originals, However, now without them, we aren't able to repeat the process and I've chosen not to reveal those results.

    As for giants? I grew up near the Albany Indian Mounds in Albany, IL and have personally researched what happened when the archaeologists found skeleton's of "unusual size" in more than 150 mounds. The Albany Mounds is 'older' than Cahokia by about 2000 years, has a temple mound and is on a bluff overlooking both the Mississippi River and the Rock River. Reports were written and sent to the Smithsonian only to have the true sizes of the skeleton's redacted and changed to 'unusual size'. They were over 7' tall and yes, they've since disappeared.

    I've also researched the Davenport Tablets found across the river in Davenport and walked the actual ground where they were found. (This area of the Mississippi River is a gold mine of mounds and artifacts.) I went through every report, reviewed the timeline for finding the tablets and know that they were not faked. Yet, the Smithsonian refused to publish the results of the original reports and screamed "FRAUD." The Davenport Anthropological and Nature Society (DANS) rivaled the Smithsonian at that time and because of it, ever since the Smithsonian has ignored this region. You won't find any mention of the Albany Mounds in their report of Mounds on the Mississippi, I think it was 1916. No, I don't trust them, which is why I went with a private researcher.

    You asked why the Sinclairs would testify against the Templars if they were Templars themselves. Actually 2 Sinclairs testified. William Sinclair testified in favor of the Templars, and Henry his son, testified against the Templars. William is the one we believe was a Templar and are still searching for additional sources to verify that. He 'does' have a seal that is engraved William St Clair, Knight. I'm currently working on identifying more of the Templars known to be in Scotland and am working with a professor of Medieval History in Cardiff, Wales for that purpose.

    In answer to question #1, yes. Their name and credentials are quoted in the book.

    question #2 - No, I no longer have any materials in my possession. I only have the transcription and photos of some of the pages in the last journals. So please don't come knocking on my door. What remains are in Scott's possession, probably in his safe, and will be tested for age and authenticity over the next few months. Who 'claims' that I still have them?

    Question #4 - No. I don't want thousands of people calling them up and harassing them. Plus it's been over 5 years, the private researcher and the person who found them for me are no longer there. I've already contacted them and the only records that would be available for the testing would be with the individual researcher. As for the person in the Archaeology Dept? That would give away the Univ, and again be non-productive.

    I know this doesn't answer your questions but without the originals there's no point in revealing the people or University who helped me. It is what it is and we have to use what we have left to vet the people, events, and artifacts that it names. I know I'm going to catch a lot of flack for throwing them away and people have already called me every name in the dictionary, in a variety of languages. But none of that is productive and we simply need to move on with what we have.

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    1. Diana:

      I am afraid I am not buying the idea that:
      " William Sinclair testified in favor of the Templars,"
      Wherever did you come across this notion?

      "Historians Mark Oxbrow, Ian Robertson, Karen Ralls and Louise Yeoman have each made it clear that the Sinclair family had no connection with the mediaeval Knights Templar. Karen Ralls has shown that among those testifying against the Templars at their 1309 trial were Henry and William Sinclair - an act inconsistent with any alleged support or membership."

      https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dblocher&id=I273374&style=TEXT

      Karen Ralls seems infinitely qualified no?

      http://ancientquest.com/biography/

      Who may I ask is your source?

      Bob Young

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    2. Bob,

      Karen Ralls and the others are flat out wrong. Check out the book, "The Enigmatic Sinclairs" published in 2017. Further, the journals make it abundantly clear the Sinclair Clan was intimately tied to the fugitive Templars that fought along with Robert the Bruce at Bannockburn.

      It looks like the legends were true.

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    3. Bob Young,

      My source is Helen R Nicholson, Professor of Medieval History at Cardiff Univ, in Cardiff, Wales. She has written several books on the subject and is eminently qualified. So is Alain Dumurger of France who has published several books and lately a book on the Trials of the Templars. I'll put my sources up to yours any day.

      Tomorrow I'll be putting together a list of Templar lands in Scotland that definitively show that the Sinclairs were allied with the Templars, as well as many other families who supported King David and Robert de Bruce. Now that many of these personal papers and state papers are indexed, it might be easier to find the truth, or at least a semblance of it.

      I noticed that someone claimed the Wemyss Caves did NOT hold Templar markings, based on what they could see on the Internet. There are more than 30 caves directly beneath the Wemyss Castle along the water. You only see about 10 of those online, and certainly not every marking present. As we get access to those caves and to the library at the castle, we may once again find more information that is not in the public domain. So much to do still...

      Diana

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    4. Diana Muir:
      " William Sinclair testified in favor of the Templars, and Henry his son, testified against the Templars. William is the one we believe was a Templar and are still searching"


      No, no, no,
      You have that completely backwards, I don't know who Helen R Nicholson is but Helen J Nicholson says that it was Henry who gave good testimony in favor of a Templar Commander.
      The very fact that they were giving testimony either for or against proves that they WERE NOT Templars, else they would have been on trial themselves !!!! Being a Templar was not a secret thing, everyone knew who the Templars were !

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    5. Anonymous Pat,

      Did it ever occur to you that being a “Templar” begins first and foremost "in your heart." Taking the obligations of a Templar Knight wasn’t always documented as “J” Nicholson has made very clear. Templars also had spies like every military group does which was what Earl Henry and other Sinclair’s essentially were at various times. Being outwardly Templar for a Sinclair at this time would have been politically and literally very dangerous. This was after the putdown and even the known fugitive Templar knights were no longer what they once were. For example, celibacy was no longer necessary if in reality if ever was.

      Everyone obviously did not know who all of the Templars were as becomes obvious in this journal alone. Life could be just as complicated then as it is now which becomes clear when you read this journal. I think we are all looking for simple explanations that reality at that time cannot provide.

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    6. Perhaps I do have it backwards, but you unknowingly gave proof that Henry gave favorable testimony for the Templars, when in fact you'd stated that both Sinclairs gave negative feedback. Seems your memory is as lacking as mine. And yes, it's Helen J Nicholson, not Helen R. I was going by memory as I was at my grandchildrens and only had my cell phone with me. Thanks for the correction. And just because they weren't arrested, means nothing. Only '2' Templars in Scotland were arrested, simply to show that they were following the edict. And then they were released. You didn't say anything about Alain as a source. I guess he's acceptable?

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    7. No no no no and another NO

      Good Lord,,,,, not unknowingly, I checked your source and agreed with that part.

      " Only '2' Templars in Scotland were arrested,"

      For Pete's sake NO NO NO, check your source !!!!
      Only 2 died in jail, William de la More and Imbart Blanc because they wouldn't recant! All the rest recanted, were given a pension of 4 pence a day and sent along their merry way.

      "And then they were released."

      NO NO NO,,,William de la More and Imbart Blanc died in prison!

      "You didn't say anything about Alain as a source. I guess he's acceptable?"

      NO NO NO,,, Alain Butler is absolutely not acceptable, but I wondered when he would be brought up as your expert.
      You do realize that he claims Templars from the future time travelled back to our distant past to build our moon do you ?

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    8. Anonymous Pat,

      She wasn't talking about Alan Butler, she was talking about Alain Demurger and his book, "The Persecution of the Templars." Don't assume, you know what happens...

      Butler has written several good books about the Templars, but he has not written about Templars coming from the future. Get you're facts straight dude.

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    9. I don't think the Masonic Lodge was burned and rebuilt 'completely' five times. It was first wood, then wood again and today it is brick. What I do know is it was destroyed each time the Confederates bunked there. As was Greeneville College (the current Andrew Johnson Library) destroyed and restored. I said it changed hands 5x. And Scott is right, I didn't mean Alan Butler, but Alain Demurger, a 79 yr old researcher in France. Maybe it's Portugal? I'm not an expert on Templars, and not even the Sinclair family. I simply translated and transcribed what I had. I'm still trying to understand a lot of it and researching the history behind the people and places. If I made a mistake, you'll have to excuse me. Colonial America is my forte not Templar History. I appreciate your pointing out my error in which Sinclair testified against who, but it doesn't denigrate the veracity of the journals. The journals never mention the Templars on trial as they start in 1353 when Henry is 8. I just received Helen's list of Templars in 1308. I'm looking forward to learning more about the Templars but have just started on that aspect.

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  27. Scott:
    "sent to Masonic scholars in the appropriate languages in Scotland."

    May I inquire as to who these Masonic scholars are and what are their qualifications?
    You no longer have in your possession any of the documents at all?
    The documents are not consistent with the language of the era, yet this does not raise a red flag for you?

    As to the Smithsonian, your statement

    " They were the worst offenders throughout this country's history of protecting the paradigm of "Columbus first" at all costs."

    is flat out wrong. When given legitimate evidence and proof, like any other accredited and legitimate institution they certainly come to the proper conclusions.

    Smithsonian:

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/visit-viking-settlement-sites-180965257/

    "So grab your helmet and shield and hop on a boat—now you can follow one of those paths of Viking Norsemen, from their original settlement in Norway across the Atlantic to their first settlement in North America."

    I would suggest that the onus of proof for the Kensington Rune Stone, Bat Creek Stone, Tucson Lead Artifacts, etc. rests entirely upon yourself. You have obviously not found enough evidence to convince qualified and accredited professionals of your claims.

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    1. Bob,

      I’ll let Terry Tilton pass along the name of scholar and his qualifications if he so chooses. Clearly you haven’t read the book since the one page of Latin we still have is pictured on pages 81 and 82. You can check out the Latin yourself or refer to the scholar of your choice.

      My statement about the Smithsonian is not “flat our wrong.” It is my opinion based on multiple examples of their indifference to scientific research, outright fraud, and suppression. You are free to disagree, but my experiences and the facts speak for themselves.

      Yes, they finally acknowledged the Ingstad’s work after years of denials. I also acknowledge they have done good work in certain areas. As I said, things are beginning to change, but they have a long way to go to earn the credibility and trust they currently do not have.

      With regard to the KRS, Bat Creek and Tucson Lead Artifacts, that scholars choose to ignore the voluminous facts in multiple disciplines that are 100% consistent with authenticity in all three cases, and cannot produce one piece of factual evidence to refute them is disgraceful. In the case of the Kensington Rune Stone it is simple to understand why the scholars still refuse to accept the artifact that has stymied them. For 120 years academics have tried to tell the KRS what it is supposed to be instead of letting the artifact tell them what it is. Put simply, they did not apply proper scientific method to their investigation. Further, they don’t understand, let alone respect the hard science of forensic geology that has proven all three artifacts to genuine.

      After over 33 years running a materials forensic laboratory I understand scientific method as well as anybody, and I know when it isn’t properly used. The other problem the Smithsonian has with the KRS specifically is they DO NOT want to admit that fugitive Templar Knights are responsible for its creation. The Roman Catholic Church does not want to open that can of worms and admit our country was founded on the principles the Church and crown abhor, freedom from the tyranny of monarchs and freedom FROM religion. The fact is the Kensington Rune was the land claim “stake in the ground” that was the official beginning of the founding of the United States of America.

      Read the journals and you’ll learn the details about how the Scottish Templars started the mission to establish the “Free Templar State”, and then handed the “Covenant” to our brethren you call the “Founding Fathers”, who finished the job.

      You can take that story, and the political baggage the Smithsonian Institution continues to carry, to the bank.

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    2. Bob Young,

      Yes, one of the scholars said the Latin was not in the style that was typical of the age. However, we are working on a theory that they may have been copied by local scholars during the Civil War in order to preserve what they said. At that time, in the place they were kept, Greeneville, TN, the city changed hands from Union to Confederate to Union to Confederate to Union 5 times. It is the only county seat in the nation with a statue to both the Union and Confederate armies. Each time they occupied the city they used the Masonic Hall as a barracks, each time burning it to the ground. They also burned Greeneville College, several other important buildings, churches, and many bridges. If they were copied by local Freemasons it would have taken a team of writers who knew different languages. With the nearby Greeneville College which taught classical languages it's very possible. We simply haven't had time yet to test the pages and to identify the writers/copiers. I think I know who 2 of them might be, but the 3rd is illusive. I might just be hoping they were copies, as I'd like to believe I threw the copies away, and not the originals; not that it's any less mortifying. Perhaps someday we'll know exactly which were copies and which were not. Until then, we have to be patient. The story is long and complicated. Let's get through it one book at a time.

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    3. Diana:
      This sounds all wrong to me.
      You are saying that these journals were "Copied by Masons" around the time of the Civil war. Exactly what makes you think they were copied and not just invented by Masons at that time?

      " Each time they occupied the city they used the Masonic Hall as a barracks, each time burning it to the ground."

      Yeah,,nah, sounds like poor research to me, or outright fiction.
      The lodge was gutted by fire in 1856, 5 years before the Civil war,

      https://books.google.ca/books?id=axwlDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA62&lpg=PA62&dq=Greeneville,+TN,+Masonic+Hall,+Civil+war&source=bl&ots=MvD2Rf-P3G&sig=4ll05-m-0NHVxAmNH_KpteSGhbs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwicm8Tr2-reAhU-JTQIHf5kBIwQ6AEwCXoECA4QAQ#v=onepage&q=Greeneville%2C%20TN%2C%20Masonic%20Hall%2C%20Civil%20war&f=true

      Do you expect us to believe the Masons kept rebuilding the lodge time after time during the civil war?

      I'm afraid I am out, this all sounds completely bogus to me. Getting answers from you two is like pulling teeth, and the more I learn the more ridiculous this becomes.

      So long everyone, I'm gone.

      Bob Young

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    4. Bob,

      The reason she thinks they were copied she already explained in her previous comment; because most or all of the journals do not appear to be completely consistent with the time period they were originally written. Therefore, they likely are copies which would make perfect sense. Since the tradition and obligation was passed down from the Templars to modern Freemasonry, Diana’s speculation the information was preserved within the Craft is reasonable.

      One thing you can be 100% sure of is even if a lodge burned down the brethren would have found a place to meet in lodge on a regular basis, more especially during times of conflict. Whether they rebuilt at the same location or retrofitted an existing building, they would quickly recreate their home lodge.

      Since you clearly have not yet read the book, getting “out” doesn’t make sense since you were never “in” to begin with.

      It was fun…

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    5. Bob Young, If that's your real name...

      You seem very unfamiliar with the history of Greeneville, TN. The lodge there was created in 1801 as the 3rd lodge in TN, a designation of Lodge #3 which they still hold. It may have been gutted in 1856 but it was also rebuilt before the Civil War on it's present location, downtown. The original charter from 1801 only survived because someone stole it and hid it under the floorboards of the nearby Ashbury Methodist Church. Membership lists were lost as I'm sure many of the books were lost. Could it have been 'invented' during that time period? That's what the person said who convinced me to throw them away. I believed him. No longer. There are people on the crew lists that only an expert in Orkney history would know of, events that happened only once in a millenium that you would have had to be there to witness, and people present at meetings in places where no one knew where they were at, at the time. I'm not asking you to believe it hook, line and sinker but to read it, evaluate it yourself and make a decision.

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    6. Diana,

      Bob didn't come here to have an honest and productive discussion. Standard procedure is to ignore the facts and focus on whatever they think allows an opportunity to criticize and distort. He didn't even have the courtesy to read the book; he only came here to troll.

      Onward and upward.

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    7. Diana, OK one more comment:

      "You seem very unfamiliar with the history of Greeneville, TN. The lodge there was created in 1801 as the 3rd lodge in TN, a designation of Lodge #3 which they still hold. It may have been gutted in 1856 but it was also rebuilt before the Civil War on it's present location, downtown. The original charter from 1801 only survived because someone stole it and hid it under the floorboards of the nearby Ashbury Methodist Church. Membership lists were lost as I'm sure many of the books were lost. Could it have been 'invented' during that time period? That's what the person said who convinced me to throw them away. I believed him. No longer. There are people on the crew lists that only an expert in Orkney history would know of, events that happened only once in a millenium that you would have had to be there to witness, and people present at meetings in places where no one knew where they were at, at the time. I'm not asking you to believe it hook, line and sinker but to read it, evaluate it yourself and make a decision. "

      What does any of this have to do with what we were discussing, your claim that the Masonic Lodge was burnt down and rebuilt 5 (count them 5) times during the Civil war ???

      Your whole comment was merely a deflection.

      Yes or no, do you believe it was burnt down and rebuilt 5 times, and if so where is your evidence ?

      Bob Young

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    8. Bob,

      Are you going to acknowledge the information she provided was correct? She can answer the burnt and rebuilt 5 times question if she wants, but do you acknowledge her information about the Greeneville Lodge is correct, yes or no? This silly game of “Gotcha” is a waste of time and has nothing to do with the veracity of the journals. Besides, I thought you were "gone?"

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    9. Scott, I have no idea, nor do I care if that info is correct. What does any of it have to do with the discussion?

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    10. Anonymous,

      If you don't care, then why are you here? Before having a productive discussion let's start with knowing this, have you even read the book?

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    11. On second thought Scott, no, I don't acknowledge the information she provided was correct?

      Diana:

      "The original charter from 1801 only survived because someone stole it and hid it under the floorboards of the nearby Ashbury Methodist Church."

      http://www.greenevillelodgeno3.org/history.php

      "McKee and Maloney “… fearing that something might happen to the Lodge, as it had not met for a considerable time before this, took the charters and records then in use, beginning in November, 1857 (the other record books being locked up in the Secretary’s desk), the jewels, and some of the other articles, and hid them in the hotel then occupied by Brother Maloney, which stood on the ground now occupied by the M.E. Church on the southeast corner of Main and Summer streets [Asbury], by taking up a plank on the top of an old-fashioned cupboard built in between a chimney and the wall, and wrapping them up in an old blanket, placed them up in there, and then fastened back the plank. No one knew where they were but these two members, until after the war was over. When it was determined to reorganize the Lodge in 1865, they were ‘brought to light’ again.”

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    12. Anonymous Bob,

      I'll take that as a "no" you haven't read the book. Therefore, the only reason you are here is to harass along with Roderick, Larry and the others who decided to swarm this blog with your typical nasty "gotcha" s---.

      You're done now; so run along and harass somebody else.

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    13. Anonymous Bob,

      Right now we're dealing with Journal #1 of 20. We don't get to Greeneville, TN until Journals 17 and beyond. Please be patient in the meantime. However, your blurp from Greeneville's history supports my point that the original charter survived under the floorboards. So what is the point? It's obvious there was a reason for people to be afraid of losing records. Please wait till we get to that point to make whatever point you're trying to make. You're not going to find any reference to Greeneville, TN in the first volume. Diana

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    14. Diana:

      At the risk of incurring the wrath of Wolter for correcting your error in this:

      " However, your blurp from Greeneville's history supports my point that the original charter survived under the floorboards."

      No, for the second time, this is wrong, they were not hidden in the floorboards:

      "by taking up a plank on the top of an old-fashioned cupboard built in between a chimney and the wall, and wrapping them up in an old blanket, placed them up in there"

      The point Diana is, as a historical writer, if you expect to be taken seriously you must get the facts and details straight, else it is not history but fiction.

      Bob

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    15. Harold,

      The horse is dead, get off.

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  28. There is no Columbus first paradigm to defend. The excavation at L'Anse aux Meadows proving 11th century settlement in North America by the Norse has been widely accepted for 50 years. Do you have any proof that the Smithsonian attempted to suppress or denounce the findings at L'Anse aux Meadows at the time that the work was first published or since? To the contrary, Smithsonian Magazine has published articles on the L'Anse aux Meadows work on multiple occasions since the magazine began in 1973.

    Betty Meggers was a highly regarded archaeologist who during the 1960s and 1970s was one of the major proponents of pre-Columbian contact between Asia and South America. She was also worked for the Smithsonian before, during, and after this research. She actually had a nearly lifelong affiliation with the Institution dating to her teen years when she began working there as a volunteer and ending as Director of the Latin American Archaeology at the Smithsonian about 65 years later.

    I understand that you are upset at the Smithsonian because they, along with the vast majority of the people actually qualified to comment on the issue, reject the authenticity of the Bat Creek Stone. However, by no objective standard does this support the claim that the Smithsonian is protecting a Columbus first paradigm since the facts clearly indicate the contrary. If you don't trust the institution the problem is with you, not them.

    I have neither the time nor desire to get into a long debate that revisits the Bat Creek saga. Nor do I have the desire or time to get into an endless debate with you about the Smithsonian. It's quite clear that it is in your best "show biz" interest to maintain an antagonistic relationship with the Smithsonian, so long arguments on social media certainly are an asset to you. But for others reading this who are interested, I would suggest putting some time into researching the Smithsonian and the wide range of research and education that it supports. That ranges from cutting edge work in archaeology to cancer and HIV research and educational programs.

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    1. Larry,

      I just gave you an example of their attempts at suppression with the Bat Creek Stone in my earlier blog post. That you refuse to acknowledge and accept the hard scientific facts that have proven the artifact to be genuine is your business.

      It is easy to pick and choose examples where they have done good work, which I readily acknowledge. However, that doesn't excuse the continued dismissal of the KRS, Bat Creek Stone, and Tucson Lead Artifacts myself, and other hard scientists and amateur archaeologists have proven to be authentic and therefore important historical artifacts that completely rewrite the narrative of North America.

      Sorry Larry, but my statement about the Smithsonian Institution stands.

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  29. You need to make up your mind. Either the Smithsonian can't be trusted any further than you can throw it or you "readily acknowledge" that they sometimes do good work. Can't have it both ways. A rather moot point anyway given that the Smithsonian enjoys a worldwide reputation for first-class work. You don't, sorry.

    By any objective standard your statement doesn't stand. But, as I readily acknowledged it is in your best interest, as well as whoever sticks you in front of a camera next, to make the claims that you do. Gotta keep that brand going. That's why my comments were really for the benefit of others. So, I will leave it at that.

    By the way, how is that Congressional investigation of the Smithsonian going? If the science is on your side then I look forward to the youtube video of people like Bruce Smith getting grilled for their suppression of the "truth."

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    1. Larry,

      Now you're simply being silly. Of course an Institution can do good work in some areas and yet have deep characters flaws. Bill Cosby and nearly every major bank in the world serve as examples. As far as my reputation goes, in the materials forensic world I'm considered to be pretty good. My work on the lithic artifacts has also been pretty damn good. That hate bloggers don't respect my work or me personally isn't a standard you should be aligning yourself with for that is the only place you'll find disparaging words about my work. That you and all the detractors cannot find issues with the facts and choose personal attacks is all the evidence necessary.

      There is no need to address your latter comments for they are not worthy of addressing. Time for you to trot along back to the hate blog where you'll feel more at home.

      Goodbye...

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  30. Matching Maya Blue with palagorskite from Georgia is no big deal...?

    Confirming caliche tests over a hundred years old is no big deal...?

    How do you make caliche in a kiln??? From what I understand, the temps needed would melt the lead.

    My hubcap comparison was not meant to poo poo your work, just easier filing for my mind. It opens?

    Anthony Warren

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    1. Anthony,

      Not sure what the points are you're trying to make? Caliche is not made in a kiln, firing limestone, shells, even caliche which are all comprised of calcium carbonate (CaCO3) to create lime (CaO) is made in a kiln.

      No offense taken on the hubcap comment and yes, it opens and contained interesting artifacts that launched the Cremona Document story. The book is really good and I'm convinced the stories within it are true. You'll be amazed if the truth about preColumbian activities of the Templars in North America is of interest to you.

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    2. My bad, Scott. I thought, I'd hit reply. They were directed towards Larry. AU may be considered entertainment, however hard Science was displayed. I just gave the two most impressive examples, with a little commentary on the caliche argument. Sources going back to my youth claimed the Tucson Lead artifacts had caliche faked in a kiln. A process I've been told would melt the artifacts beyond recognition.

      Anthony Warren

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    3. Anthony,

      No worries, I was confused by the phrasing. In any case, the claim caliche could be created in a kiln and therefore proves the lead artifacts are fake is an example of the lengths people will do to try to debunk. It's laughable and shows what lengths the negative forces will go to.

      It never happened, it couldn't happen and is yet another red herring that is now placed in the dustbin of deniers.

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  31. Personally, I would first like to thank Scott Wolter and those who respond to his thoughts and expeditions! Most people who are not scholars do not get exposed to the various regions or artifacts that are presented. With that said, it is also an amazing experience to be contacted by those people who actually have the historical knowledge which could simply solve every debate. I have always assumed those people are the Templar... as in every story given to the populous has a hidden meaning that anyone without a scholarly background but has an objectivity of logic can read. Such as...

    Why is there a debate on L'Anse aux Meadows? It is logical to note that if you discovered America, you would not place your settlement in this location unless it was a bus stop to another destination. Ships landed there, received supplies, rested, went further down the coast. Scholars seem to miss the point, they only express a limited view of reality. If a scholarly civilization annexes a previous society and writes it down. They have (one)... admitted they were not first. They have (two)... admitted the evidence of that fact even though they keep denying the existence of others due to the fact the previous society didn't have journals that survived or are being kept under wraps. They have (three)... given credence to every conspiracy theory due to the fact that scholars do not explain the purpose of what is reported. Each fact a person is exposed to creates a dot. When a second dot is created, a logical person can create a story that connects the dots. It is always contradicted by the scholars, even though the scholars don't explain (purpose).

    It is a game... it starts by being tutored with stories of insight, it develops into knowledge of greater purpose by those who give direction, it is stymied by those who demand facts already given and are in use by scholars who continue to deny the existence of such facts. Logic training or futility?

    Leif Erickson-people said he discovered America. Read his story and it says his ship was attacked when he arrived here. People already here! They were Skraelingar, meaning they had already met them previously because they were given a name. The Skraelingar had a purpose, the Vikings had a purpose, it goes way beyond L'Anse aux Meadows! Scholars debate step one, when one hundred steps thereafter are already known. There are giant pyramids down below! They didn't get there by themselves, or a gathering of tee-pee toting indians. The indians were created by the people running the pyramids for almost 3,000 years before Columbus. Where's the debate?

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    1. Eagle Feather,

      You are quite right L'Anse aux Meadows was a stopping off point after arriving in North America after an arduous trip. The presence of Butternuts there that only grow at lower latitudes proves the point. Of course, scholars see it differently by claiming they are "trade items" or argue floated there carried by northerly currents carefully skirting the obvious.

      The reason scholars and trolls continue this ridiculous dance is fear of the truth. Protecting untenable and outdated ideas along with preserving religious and political interests are also still at work. It's shameful and will ultimately be overturned by truth.

      Ask yourself why neither my name nor any of my three books are not mentioned on the Kensington Rune Stone Wiki page, another tool used to perpetrate lies to today's world, yet academic Alice Kehoe's book praising mine and Richard Nielsen's "Compelling New Evidence" book is listed as a reference? It's called intentional suppression of the truth.

      It is a game, and one they will not win. The Templar ideology of "Veritas omnia Conquors" will prevail in the end. Mark my words...

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    2. Regarding butternuts: The website for the L'Anse aux Meadows Historic Site (which is apparently based on archaeological data) states that butternuts were most likely brought back to L'Anse aux Meadows by members of the L'Anse aux Meadows settlement who were exploring south of there. Northeastern New Brunswick which is the northernmost point where butternut grows would not be all that hard to reach by exploration parties from L'Anse aux Meadows especially if there were stop off points in between. So, any claim that butternuts could have only reached L'Anse aux Meadows via trade or ocean currents sounds very dubious. Could you provide the citation for the scholar(s) who made such claims?

      In the same vein, just a few years ago archaeological investigation was conducted at Point Rosee in southern Newfoundland in search of evidence of additional Viking settlement. So, at least some scholars are open to the possibility that there was a Viking presence to the south of L'Anse aux Meadows.

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    3. Cindy,

      During the filming of an episode of our show almost 5 years ago at L'Anse aux Meadows, I had the pleasure of filming with Birgitta Wallace for a couple of days. During our off-camera discussions she mentioned butternuts and how they were most likely trade items at that site. I didn't get the sense she was joking.

      I agree in recent times some scholars are more open to Viking era exploration in areas farther south. I think this is wonderful and am hopeful more open-minded attitudes, and the discovery and proper documentation of new evidence will continue.

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    4. Curious, since she seems to be at odds with prevailing wisdom that the butternuts were obtained by the Norse themselves. Perhaps she meant that they reached L'Anse aux Meadows via trade with other not yet identified Norse settlements to the south? Or perhaps she was just thinking out loud and running through possible alternative scenarios that others have postulated. It would be interesting to see if she has "officially" committed to a trade theory in print and what evidence she uses to support it.

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    5. Cindy,

      Birgitta may have been playing the point up a bit as she has always had angst toward me with regard to my work on the Kensington Rune Stone. She tipped her hand during the trip when I bought a copy of her latest book and asked her to sign it. The inscription reads, "To Scott, now you can read about a REAL Viking site."

      Oh well...

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    6. Now my curiosity is really peaked. At some point I will have to try to obtain some of Wallace's writings and see if she has made any "official" pronouncements that are at odds with earlier interpretations of the L'Anse aux Meadows materials or put her in conflict with contemporary scholars such as Alice Kehoe.

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    7. Cindy,

      Let me know what you find. Alice Kehoe is also a friend and a very progressive thinking academic. She was convinced by the science (geology) and the runological, dialect, grammar, and Easter Table Dating discoveries made by my then colleague, Richard Nielsen, the KRS was a genuine medieval artifact. However, she couldn't go all the way to the Templars having created it. Her positive opinion about authenticity was published in her 2005 book, "The Kensington Runestone: Approaching a Research Question Holistically" but she balked at the Templars who are the only ones who could have created it at that time. That was 13 years ago, I wonder if she has rethought that idea?

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    8. Wikipedia is an open forum where anyone who choses can contribute content. There are, however, rules governing contributions. Work that falls under the category of self-published is generally not acceptable as a citation. That is my best guess for what the issue may be with Mr. Wolter's work based on what little information I was given. That is, if in fact anyone has yet taken the time to contribute content based on Mr. Wolter's work.

      In-depth information for potential contributors can be found by clicking on the "Talk" tab at the upper left-hand corner of every Wikipedia entry. By logging into Wikipedia contributors can participate in community discussions pertaining to what materials and published sources are permitted. Anyone concerned about unfair treatment should click on the "contact page" tab on the left side of the screen, then click on "dispute resolution."

      I encourage anyone who believes that Mr. Wolter's published work on the Kensington can contribute to the quality of the Wikipedia entry on this subject to explore the opportunity to contribute content or at least discuss the matter with Wikipedia staff.

      I have no personal stake in this. I was asked to post the above information at the request of a friend who frequents this site because I am heavily involved in contributing content related to health sciences to Wikipedia and have a good idea of how the process works. This will be my only visit to this site and I don't want to get involved in any debate about subject matter that I know nothing about. Any questions or comments will need to be addressed through Wikipedia using the instructions that I provided.

      Your welcome, Lou.

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    9. Lou,

      Thanks for coming here to clarify things. Your use of the term “generally” when referencing self-published work is telling and says to me Wiki editors have significant discretion. Doug Weller is the editor who has not allowed citations for the scientific work of myself, and the ground-breaking runological work by Dr. Richard Nielsen on the Kensington Rune Stone. Both his and my work were independently peer-reviewed, in writing, by the top experts in appropriately disciplines. At that point, whether an existing publishing company, or ourselves personally in this case, paid to have the work assembled and published should be irrelevant. The work was peer-reviewed, professionally edited, formatted and printed and should be judged on merit rather than a technicality.

      To not cite, dare I say, the definitive work on what is, arguably, the most important historical artifact in North America is a disservice to the public and to history. To emphasize the hypocrisy even more, one of the works that is cited on the KRS Wiki page is Alice Kehoe’s book, The "Kensington Rune Stone: Examining a Research Question Holistically", that reviewed our work in "Compelling New Evidence" and concluded we proved our case and the artifact is genuine, yet our book is repeatedly removed as a citation whenever it is added to the KRS page.

      Beyond "Compelling New Evidence", I have published two additional books that build upon the evidence already published on the Kensington Rune Stone that were not self-published. I think it is worth mentioning that I am licensed professional geologist and take my scientific work very seriously and can be held accountable for substandard or fraudulent work.

      Thanks again for taking the time to post your comments.

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    10. One needs to be cautious about what press they publish a book through. Some publishing houses require authors to pay a substantial fee to publish their work or authors are required to purchase large numbers of their own book and then recoup their money by marketing the book themselves. Books are published based on market appeal and/or the author's willingness to pay, in one form or another, rather than because a book represents quality research. Because the operations can make a lot of money from the authors as well as additional revenue through their own marketing they rarely utilize peer review or just go through the motions of conducting peer review. Beginning authors sometimes fall prey to these operations and even if their work involves quality research it may not be accepted as a legitimate peer reviewed work because it was produced via an operation considered to be a vanity press.



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    11. I should have added a caveat to the last sentence of my post. The issue of quality research will remain a relative unknown because even quality research often needs to be significantly revised prior to publication based on rigorous peer review.

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    12. Walter,

      What you say is very true, not to mention the fact that due to on-line publishing options like Createspace and LuLu, people are able to publish anything and keep virtually all of the profits. These options offer minimal review of format and nothing with regard to technical or editorial review.

      As I previously stated, the technical peer review of the content of "The Kensington Rune Stone: Compelling New Evidence" was completed prior to the publication of the book. If ensuring quality content is the purpose of Wiki being cautious about self-published material, they have nothing to fear.

      To continue to censor the deprives the public of the facts surrounding this important artifact and reeks of something nefarious. However, I would love to be proven wrong about that.

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    13. Hi Scott, I was wondering if wiki has had an opportunity to read these peer reviews?
      Could you direct me as to where I might find them?

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    14. Can you please identify yourself and your credentials? Because of the extremely contentious nature of the Kensington Rune Stone, the peer reviews are only shared with qualified individuals such as geologists in the case of my geological work. Why would Wiki want to read the peer reviews, they wouldn't know how to interpret them?

      In the case of my geological work; the initial report is the place to start. Otherwise, the peer reviews make no sense.

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    15. Well I think, in a case as contentious as this, you showing wiki that you actually had peer reviews would be a good place to start your journey toward credibility.
      In the world of science just saying something with no evidence is obviously not enough for wiki or anyone else for that matter.

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    16. So I take it sharing your identity out of courtesy is a non-starter for you?

      I understand how science works and if you think I'm being untruthful then I'm sorry you feel that way. I can assure you the peer reviews exist and are available for review to qualified individuals. My concern is having hate bloggers harass the individuals as they have done in the past when I received an honorary Masters Degree from my professors personally for publishing my first book, not formally from the University. That harassment caused great anxiety to my then retired and now deceased professor at the time and I WILL NOT allow that to happen again.

      If Wiki is interested in seeing the reviews I welcome them to reach out as long as they keep things professional and confidential.

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    17. As far as Alice Kehoe is concerned she is an anthropologist not a geologist therefore not qualified to peer review your geology work. Given that she rejects your historical theories, it would seem that her expertise in her chosen field does not agree with your work.

      I see it as you having your cake and eating it too.
      You simply cannot claim to have peer reviews, not produce them and expect people to buy into what you claim.
      Would you be at least share the initial report' or a link to it?
      Or is that a big secret as well?

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    18. I do not care what a nameless troll thinks who doesn’t have the courtesy or respect of properly identifying themselves, this conversation is over.

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    19. Scott, you might want to try to do a better job of maintaining your composure. The criticism you are receiving here is child's play compared to what a scholar encounters when they submit a manuscript for publication and it must undergo double-blind peer review. In this process you have to stay calm and address comments and often harsh criticisms made by people who would likely fall into your category of nameless trolls. But you can't just get upset and quit and say the conversation is over, at least if you want your work to pass muster and then be published through a well known and respected publishing company. That is what Alice Kehoe did. Had she shared your seemingly low tolerance for criticism it is unlikely that her book would have ever seen the light of day.
      It is also worth noting that Dr. Kehoe's work was published by Waveland Press a well respected company noted for producing college-level textbooks and supplementary texts for college classes. The book has been praised in some published book reviews in academic journals. The fact that Kehoe was able to publish a book which lends some support for the authenticity of the Kensington Stone, has been used in college classes, has received complimentary reviews, and is accepted as a valid source by wikipedia indicates that if there is a conspiracy to suppress the truth the conspirators did a very bad job of it in this instance.

      Try to keep your S__ together or you will just keep serving as fodder for the debunkers.


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    20. John,

      Please don’t lecture me about maintaining composure; my s--- is together just fine thank you. I’ve already been through the academic review process that was tough, but very civil. I live in the professional world and held to a different standard than academia. Having anonymous academic critics throw personal barbs is nothing compared to rabid lawyers spitting vitriol in your face on a witness stand.

      In any case, I have shared everything with two qualified, unbiased geologists in the past two years and they had several questions that I answered to their satisfaction. What most don’t realize is the KRS is a rock type I’m very familiar with having mapped the Thomson Formation in college. I recognized the two-directional foliation of the micas at 60 degrees immediately in thin section. To be frank, the geological aspects of the stone while complicated, are relatively straightforward and speak loud and clear. The runes, dialect, grammar and the dating aspects of the inscription also speak loudly and consistently. If you haven’t read my “Ritual Code” blog post in 2016, serious researchers should. That discovery explains why scholars have struggled so mightily with the inscription. It wasn’t until I was initiated that the realization of what the inscription really is happened, and it was profound. Further, the trail to the Templars was the easiest evidence trail I have ever followed that led directly to them and no one else. All aspects of the artifact now fit with the voluminous facts and the Kensington Stone is now completely solved. The written proof of the who, from where, why, and when is in this book. You have to look for it, but it jumps out right away.

      It makes no sense to engage non serious, unqualified people. By the way, I was asked if my initial report is anywhere to be found. It’s called, "The Geology of the Kensington Rune Stone" chapter in our book, "The Kensington Rune Stone: Compelling New Evidence", and it’s been out there for all to see for over 12 years now.

      Have at it!

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    21. I bet that asking for transcripts or video of your clashes with rabid lawyers would result in the same response as when people ask for copies of peer reviewed comments on your work.

      You do realize that there are a lot of people with advanced degrees who work in a wide range of non-Academic settings. Many of them submit their research for publication through double-blind peer review and they also serve as peer reviewers for work submitted by academics. In fact, some non-academic research centers are even more hard core about Publish or Perish than any major university. You are trying to push a false dichotomy in terms of academic vs. "professional" worlds when it comes to publication. You are also confusing peer review with simply having colleagues perform an informal review of a manuscript. Plenty of academics do that as well, but only as a first step to improve the work, then it is submitted for actual double blind peer review.

      If your work will stand the test of rigorous review by qualified professionals in geology then why not submit some of your work to a peer reviewed geology journal or some of the interdisciplinary earth sciences journal. It is not unheard of for these types of journals to publish work that represents overlap between geology and archaeology. In those cases your work is going to be reviewed by highly qualified geologists with maybe an archaeologists with acknowledged expertise in geology participating as well. The worst thing that can happen is that they shoot you down, but then it will give you a change of pace in terms of being able to complain about all the geologists out to get you instead of the stale complaints about other disciplines.

      Have at it. Or don't, and ten years from now you will still be lamenting the fact that your work can't even make it onto Wikipedia and will still be losing your S___ in debates because you are hopelessly confused about peer review.

      I'm pretty sure that right about now you have pretty much lost your S___ and are about to play another round of screaming TROLL and taking your ball and going home. Or maybe not. Either way, I've made my point(s) and it is time to didi out of here.


      P.S. Sorry if I come across a little harsh, but:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0l3QWUXVho


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    22. John,

      Nobody is losing their s--- and thanks for your input. The work is out there, it’s solid, Kehoe likes it and anyone is free to review it and ask legitimate questions at any time. Ten years from now I’ll be just as content with the findings and a lot more will have come to the surface (literally) that will put this case to rest once and for all.

      It was a fun exchange; no need to apologize. Good song btw.

      Cheers buttercup!

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    23. Have at it! ,,,,, sure.
      Scott, It would seem that a major part of your dating of the carving relies upon the complete weathering away of biotite on the carved surfaces of the stone.
      In studying the interior puck taken from the invasive plug removed from the back of the stone was any biotite visible ?

      At the bottom of page 7 here:

      https://websites.godaddy.com/blob/65151a46-8ee3-453c-83d3-7b1077c69c9e/downloads/1bjjr2j2i_6396.pdf?1990c761

      It says:
      " biotite if present was not intersected in the electron microprobe traverses."

      Without proven biotite in the interior of the stone, why would one expect there was any biotite at all on the exterior to weather away?
      Also what agents would be responsible for the weathering away of the exterior biotite that would not also weather away the calcite that some runes were carved in, which seems to show almost no weathering at all?

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    24. It would be nice if you would identify yourself as a courtesy.
      I know you probably think it doesn't matter, but I do,

      Finally, some legitimate geological questions. First, you need to realize Dr. Wieblen ran only one microprobe traverse (I was present when he did it) and it was on the exterior, glaical-aged weathered end of the core which, of course, no longer has any micas present.

      As I wrote in my report, the primary agents that mechanically (not chemically) weathered the micas were repeated cycles of wetting-drying and freezing-thawing. Weathering of the hydro-thermally deposited calcite on the face side of the stone with several runes carved into it would be impacted primarily by the acidity of meteoric water coming into contact with the calcite. The limey till on Rune Stone hill has a relatively high pH (9-11) and therefore actually preserved the carvings in the calcite. Dissolution of calcite in acidic water is a chemical process and completely different than mechanical processes that affected the micas.

      Good questions!

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    25. Scott:
      " First, you need to realize Dr. Wieblen ran only one microprobe traverse (I was present when he did it) and it was on the exterior, glaical-aged weathered end of the core which, of course, no longer has any micas present."

      But that is not what Dr. Wieblen says:
      "The sections reveal a rather homogeneous mineralogy
      and texture which suggests that electron microprobe anayses would be similar throughout the sections."

      Also the thin wafer examined only had one edge that was part of the outer surface, the rest went as far as 12mm into the interior of the stone, well beyond any possibility of any mechanical weathering.
      So, would you answer my previously asked question, When you studied the interior of the was there any biotite present?

      As to the 9-11 PH balance of the soil, I find this rather incredible. That would be very rare soil indeed, would any plants at all grow in such conditions? The sloughs around there would have very visible white powder residues of alkali rimming their boundaries with probably nothing growing in them. Is this the case?
      I think you might have to go back and retest the PH balance,,,,9-11 PH is a non-starter.

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    26. This is the last time I answer your questions as Anonymous,

      Dr. Wieblen did not review thin sections, he performed one micro-probe analysis on the weathered top surface. He also described the thickness of the top portion of the core sample (approximately 35 mm (1-3/8”) diameter by 12 mm (1/2”) thick), but did he not test this vertical surface, he tested the top, horizontal weathered surface. To no one's surprise, he found no mica's. As far as below the weathered surface of the core sample, yes, both myself and Professor Emeritus Richard Ojakangas documented just over 5% biotite in thin section. Don’t overthink it.

      What part of on the alkaline side of neutral on the pH scale do you not understand? Calcite will accumulate on rocks under these conditions in glacial deposits, not dissolve. We see secondary calcite accumulations on the back side of the KRS and many other glacial erratic rocks on Rune Stone hill.

      You’re being a troll, stop it. Be professional or move on, and remember, this is strike two for you as Anonymous.

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    27. Strike Three, I knew you couldn't do it.

      And you were doing so well...

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    28. Frederick SandersonNovember 27, 2018 at 4:44 PM

      John Steber,

      You are just a little off track. The earth science that overlaps most with archaeology is geomorphology. Some view it as a subfield of geology and others view it as a subfield of geography. Either way, it is a specialization that archaeologists often rely upon for matters related to site formation and analysis of the impact of various variables such as time, weather, and human factors on lithic surfaces on or near the earth's surface. A lot of confusion and grief could have prevented if the original analysis of the Kensington Stone had been led by a research team with co-P.I.'s who were Ph.D.'s trained in Geoarchaeology and Geomorphology. A preliminary report on their analysis could have been presented at the annual meeting of the Association of American Geographers as well as any of the archaeology conferences that place an emphasis on Geoarchaeology. SEAC comes to mind. Based on initial feedback on the presentations, the research could have been refined and then submitted for publication in an outlet such as the Annals of the Association of American Geographers or Geoarchaeology, or Physical Geography, or American Antiquity, or one of the international journals with one of the PI's as lead author. Could have made for a very interesting project with minimal potential for controversy. But unfortunately that didn't happen, at least in my opinion. Now I expect to receive a stern rejoinder from someone who, with all due respect, would have been lucky to have been involved in the investigation as an R-III and very junior author in an ideal scenario. Please be gentle, kind sir.....

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    29. Frederick,

      You are correct that geomorphology is an important geological tool when trying understand certain archaeological artifacts and sites. In this case, understanding the role of the glacial kame and kettle topography along the watershed divide that runs through the Ohman Farm, and the geochemical aspects of the limey glacial till at the discovery site, is very important. Those aspects of the Kensington Rune Stone are the same today as they were in 1898 and absolutely were considered by myself in the early 2000s, and by Professor Newton Winchell during his investigation in 1909-10.

      The geomorphological aspects of the discovery have been documented, published, and are available for the world to see. Don’t forget about the cluster of stone holes that triangulate to pin point the discovery site. People forget about that and it’s very important.

      As I’ve said numerous times before, there’s no need to try and frame the investigation to suite your view of how things are supposed to be. Scholars are welcome to the already peer-reviewed and published data. They, and you should stop anguishing over what they can’t control and have at it.

      You just couldn’t resist throwing a jab could you? I guess it’s hard trying not to be a troll…

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    30. Stoneholes?,, I think you may be wrong on that Scott, Olaf Ohman's son Arthur was interviewed in the 80s by Carl Zapffe of the Brainerd Daily Dispatch, and explained how himself and his brothers made these stoneholes.

      Billy Horton

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    31. These people seem to forget how a simple Patent Clerk changed the world. Maybe, stop and think about how a "lowly immigrant" from Serbia set the stage for the entire modern world.

      Legitimacy occurs after death,

      Anthony Warren

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    32. “Billy” Harold,

      First, his name was Olof Ohman, not “Olaf.” Get your facts straight please. For the record, Art Ohman died in 1984 at the age of 93.

      Funny you should mention that interview. What you neglected to add is Lloyd Flaaten was also interviewed by Mr. Zapffe and in June of 2017. When I conducted and video-recorded Lloyd and Darwin Ohman I asked them about that very interview. He was very upset with Zapffe and said Arthur Ohman was also very upset saying, “That article was total bulls---.” According to Lloyd Flaaten, Arthur DID NOT say he and his brothers carved the 17 known stone holes on the farm, including the two that were not on their property.

      This begs the question, why would they take the time and prolonged effort to hand chisel stone holes into large boulders in the first place? Debunkers will tell you to blast the rocks apart with dynamite to clear their fields for farming. This sounds reasonable, except when you consider the facts:

      1. Standard sized dynamite won’t fit inside the slightly less than 1” diameter holes.

      2. The practice of blasting boulders apart doesn’t require a hole in the boulder. Dynamite is packed with mud on the surface and then blasted.

      3. Why would anyone to go the extreme time and effort to carve 17 stone holes for blasting, and then not blast them.

      4. Arthur Ohman DID NOT say he and his brothers carved the stone holes.

      5. What an amazing coincidence the Ohman took all that time to carve stone holes for blasting, and then not blast them, but it turns out that at least 8 of the stone holes magically triangulate exactly where the KRS was discovered. Mmmm…?

      Swing and a miss Harold; try again.

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    33. Darwin Ohman here. Scott, when I first saw that article a couple of years ago I was upset as I knew it wasn't true. We arranged to interview and film Lloyd and he remembered the newspaper interview very clearly. He was misquoted by Zapffe as was Art. Lloyd talked about how upset they were when the article was published.

      It seems this was a classic case of the author publishing what he wanted to hear rather than what was said.

      By the 1970's Art had experienced this treatment many times and was reluctant to talk about the KRS to anyone.

      Lloyd is still with us today and it was an honor for me to hear this directly from him and to set the record straight. I really appreciate him taking the time to do that.

      Set them straight Scott! -- Darwin

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    34. Darwin,

      You points are well taken and I know Billy Harold will do his best to discontinue spreading falsehoods. Thanks for your input.

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    35. Scott,

      "1. Standard sized dynamite won’t fit inside the slightly less than 1” diameter holes."

      Black powder was the most commonly used explosive for breaking rock. LOL

      "2. The practice of blasting boulders apart doesn’t require a hole in the boulder. Dynamite is packed with mud on the surface and then blasted."

      Don't know much about explosives do you? Sure that works well with a modern "Rock crusher" or shape charge, but, with standard dynamite or black powder it would cost probably 10X the amount to get the same amount of energy forcing upon the rock itself rather than being dispersed into the air. Do you think miners just slap some mud on a charge on the surface and say, good nuff'? LOL

      "3. Why would anyone to go the extreme time and effort to carve 17 stone holes for blasting, and then not blast them."

      Perhaps refer to what was said in the article. It is well explained. Oh, you haven't even seen it? LOL

      "4. Arthur Ohman DID NOT say he and his brothers carved the stone holes."

      A documented source says he did. LOL

      "5. What an amazing coincidence the Ohman took all that time to carve stone holes for blasting, and then not blast them, but it turns out that at least 8 of the stone holes magically triangulate exactly where the KRS was discovered. Mmmm…?"

      Ya,,,,,,Templars,, LOL LOL LOL

      Swing and a miss Scotty, swing and a miss.

      Darwin:

      Misquoted ? This is not a misquote, this is completely different story you are saying.

      " We arranged to interview and film Lloyd "

      Well, document it, u tube is free, I'm sure Scotty can help. Otherwise it's simply hearsay versus a documented source.

      Billy

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    36. Weak response to the facts Billy "H", but I know you'll do better next time.

      So if we post the interview will you admit you were wrong and apologize? Didn't think so.

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    37. Scott:

      "So if we post the interview will you admit you were wrong and apologize? Didn't think so."

      Wrong about what Scott?
      Did Carl Zapffe not interview Arthur Ohman and quote him as saying that the Ohman boys made those stoneholes?
      What was I wrong about?
      Should I apologize for supplying you with documented evidence?
      You really should open your horizons to the possibility that you are not not more knowledgeable than the rest of the world combined, and that even you can be wrong.

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    38. Harold,

      Carl Zapffe lied in his interview and it wasn’t the first time people has misled, twisted the truth or flat out lied about the KRS. It didn’t happen.

      Look, you don’t need to apologize, but I’d be nice if you’d acknowledge when a point is made. I’m not happy to be wrong, but I will admit when I am. This just isn’t one of those times.

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    39. Frederick SandersonNovember 29, 2018 at 5:20 PM

      Mr. Wolter,

      I was not throwing a jab, I was stating facts. I was commenting on how things must be if you want to be taken seriously in a matter such as this. The bottom line is that if a fully qualified interdisciplinary research team had been assembled, conducted in-depth analysis, and then submitted their findings for peer review, then it is highly unlikely that we would be having this type of discussion years and years after the fact. Please feel free to post the names of scholars who would agree that my discussion of what a robust investigation process of the KS should have looked like is in any way trolling.

      I must say that for someone who claims not to care what academics think, you seem to spend a lot of time arguing with them as well as engaging in name dropping when it comes to people with a Ph.D. or M.A. after their name who give any indication of supporting your assertions. Again, not a jab or trolling, just statement of fact.

      I will be happy to continue this discussion when I see some names of people who think that it is trolling to assert that Geomorphology/Geoarchaeology Ph.D.s (along with others with relevant qualifications) and a peer review publication process would have been a better course of action with the KS than what actually occurred. I really want to talk to people who support an argument AGAINST a more rigorous research design.

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    40. Frederick,

      I honestly don't understand the point you're trying to make. The KRS was found by the farmer while clearing trees with his two sons and the ideal scientific investigation wasn't performed. However, enough documentation was assembled to prove the veracity of the discovery. What happened is what happened.

      Name dropping? It's called citing the proper credentials of the individuals who contributed to the investigation. Humanities disciplines like runology, language, archaeology and historians are the ones who rejected the KRS based on ZERO hard factual evidence. Can you list one piece of factual evidence consistent the KRS being a late 19th Century hoax? You can't, and how could there be any because the artifact was created in the 14th Century.

      Why do I care what soft science academics think? It was their lack of following proper scientific method, and personal attacks against anyone who disagreed with them, that led to the mess we have today. This is all outlined in "Compelling New Evidence" and is likely one of the reasons many academics try to marginalize and/or ignore the book and me.

      It's a human condition problem, not a peer review problem, which has already been done by my geological peers. And no, please don't try to tell me again what you think is proper peer review procedure is in your world. It didn't work the first time so why would anyone expect a different outcome doing it again?

      No offence Frederick, but the Utopian situation you envision didn't happen and nothing can change it. We have play with the card we've been dealt, and we still have a really good hand.

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    41. Frederick SandersonNovember 30, 2018 at 1:09 PM

      Excellent non-answer.

      But at least I wasn't accused of being a hateful troll for raising questions and concerns that most people would view as quite reasonable under the circumstances. So, I guess it can be viewed as some sort of progress if one is in the mood to see the glass as half full. Fortunately I am in that sort of mood today.

      Speaking of murky vetting processes, wasn't this thread supposed to be a discussion of Dr. Muir's work? It seemed to have rather conveniently gotten side-tracked.

      She has a book to sell, so why don't we yield the floor and let her try to sell it?


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    42. Frederick,

      Your postulation is something that can never happen 120 years after the fact. The geomorphological aspects of the KRS discovery have been documented, considered, and are in the record. That's about the best answer you're going to get at this stage in the game.

      As long as you keep a professional, respectful, and avoid trollish behavior it’s all good. I don’t refer to people as trolls unless they deserve it.

      Yes, we did diverge from the subject matter of the this blog post. Have you read the book yet?

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  32. L'Anse aux Meadows is Odin's Den, to accept the incoming and house the outgoing. Oak Island was for the rabble rousers who rowed the ships.
    A night of partying before moving on. Washington DC is Odin's Cobblestone Court, land of the giants. Roanoke Island is bus stop number two. A rest stop at sea to keep the Vikings separated from the Skraelingar tribes settled on land, so not to disturb the superstitions they were bridled with. South America, it is the equivalent to the south of France. Follow the Mississippi River, the Midgaard Serpent, to the exit portal... that which Leif Erickson entered when the East Coast was cut off in 985 AD. Where's the debate?

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  33. In short strokes...

    1. Oldest large settlements are in South America - these were Norse colonies that were populated with non-Norse people.

    2. Norse Sagas tell of police actions in these areas.

    3. Midgaard settlements are the Mesoamerican pyramids - these were scholarly colonies to mix with South American Indians.

    4. Knight records tell of police actions in this area.

    5. Tribal settlements are in North America - these people became the Scandinavian people.

    6. Less archeological evidence in coastal regions given they were kept antiquated in small tribes to preserve physical attributes. Larger tribes, like the Cahokia are well known and in the records.

    7. Viking records tell of shipping lanes back to Europe.

    8. St. Lawrence River - McMac Indians. Those who were a step away from being Norse replicants. Sir names.

    9. The ninth hole - a putt in the green. The luck of the Irish.

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    1. Let's help Anonymous out... say this with a deep foreboding drawl.

      I am Zeus of Arcadia..
      Son to, Helen of Macedon
      Keeper of the Temple at Knossos
      and True Blood to the City of Troi

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    2. Eirik,

      I'm not really interested in helping a coward like Anonymous, he enjoys being a troll. So be it...

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    3. Eirik,

      I don't post the name of hate bloggers on here; they are searchable. Regardless, you are right it's one of his trolls.

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  34. Scott,

    I'm interested in visiting the new Kensington Runestone museum. Do you know of any special events planned to make it an outing with the family? Went to the Viking ship museum in Moorhead a few years ago and wondered if the three museums including Alexandria Runestone museum could put together a weekend outing?

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    1. Eirik,

      I don't know of anything scheduled in the coming year, but I'm sure they will be events. However, you and your family will have a great time at the Runestone Museum and at the Ohman Farm where the new Interpretive Center is about 15 minutes away.

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  35. Scott,

    Thanks! Just searched the Interpretive Center. Didn't know the extent of their plans before. Should be fun.

    On another note, along with a lot of other people, you seem to be our only mainstream connection to America's pre-columbian past. You have gotten the ball rolling to get people thinking. So much concealed, but then again so much still available.

    Have you ever heard of a place where the Army Corps of Engineers dump what they dredge from the Mississippi River? There has got to be some artifacts to sift through there.

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    1. Eirik,

      I'm not aware of the location where the Corps dumps their dredged material from the Mississippi. I'm sure there are multiple dumping locations, but haven't heard a thing about them.

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  36. Mary Mason,

    I think if you look at the number of tweets I've done in the past 5 years on Twitter, you'll find they are few and far between. "Rarely" would have been a better choice of words. I sent out a tweet about the book so that I could reach more people. Probably the first tweet in a very long time. I didn't ignore his message. I simply didn't see it until a few days ago and then made certain he was blocked. I choose not to endorse his type of journalism.

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  37. Hi, Scott and Diana

    You're work is great. I'm looking forward to the books. Scott, I watch your shows constantly, even just to have something on the tube. I love history, and researching the truth about history. I recently found my ancestry to be at the core of what's always interested me most. My ancestors, are from early American settlement, ranging from N.C. to Boston. I'm a direct descendant of James I King of Scots which follows back the Royal lines of the Scots, Normands, Irish, Brittains, Dutch, Spanish, and French...to include the Kings of Jerusalem at the start of the Crusades. Of course, it doesn't amount to a cup of coffee...but it's fascinating, and that's good enough.
    So, I do have a question regarding the possible location of any, or all, relics recovered from the beneath the Holy Temple. In general, we popularly know they made their way to Scotland, Ireland, then the New World. Oak Island and New Ross are very interesting places, and the relics probably made pit stops there, on their way to the US. I don't know how much you know, or don't know. I just thought I'd ask a yes or no question, in case you do have any hunches, that might match my hunches.
    So I'll just ask, as it relates, do any of the following words sound familiar to you.....Carroll, Sybil, or Lee?

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    1. Mike,

      If the journals are genuine which they most likely are, then the "treasures" found under the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, and elsewhere in the Middle East at the time of the Crusades, did make it's way to North America. As far as those specific names I'll let Diana, who is the genealogist, answer the question about those names.

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    2. Mike,

      There are journals to come where many names are given but names without time periods and locations are hard to place. You said your genealogy ranges from NC to Boston, MA. Can you give me more specifics about their full names, place of residence and general time period? Thanks.

      Diana

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  38. Bob,

    When we get to Journal #17 we'll discuss it then. I obviously have different sources than you do.

    Diana

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  39. When does book 2 come out? Scott, you mentioned you were working on pulling something out of the ground, but never updated us on that progress. Waiting anxiously.

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    1. Brandon,

      Book 2 will come out sometime in 2019, but there is no rush to do that. As I said below, there is a lot to unpack in this book and I have yet to here any comments from people who have read the book yet.

      Pulling things out of the ground must be done carefully and correctly. When and if that happens you will know about it. Patience is indeed a virtue.

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  40. Scott,

    Is this your source for Sir Humphrey Dennison? Is this book your source for his alleged involvement in building the Newport Tower?

    Anthony Warren

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    1. Anthony,

      This book is not the source. Stay tuned for the next installment in 2019 and you'll see LOTS of names. Until then, there is a lot to unpack in this book. Most notably the Kensington party including the who, from where, when and the purpose of their mission. I can tell people commenting here haven't read the book yet, because they haven't come to that profound realization yet.

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  41. The more I read of these comments the more I return to what I pointed out originally: To believe in any of this requires one to make a lot of assumptions, each one of which is a proposition that requires proof (rather than additional assertions and speculations), and for which no good proof has been offered. And, yes, "belief" is the appropriate term here, given the sheer number of unlikely assertions required.

    Oh, and Geology is far from the only field of study that should be at issue here. There's History, Archaeology, the study of various Ancient languages, etc.

    -An Anonymous Nerd

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    1. Nerd,

      Until you have read the entries any commentary about anything related to the book is meaningless. Either read the book and then comment or spend your time pontificating about something you haven't taken the time to learn about elsewhere.

      That is certainly true, but Geology is the only hard science discipline you listed that can be fully trusted. Call me bias, but it is those other disciplines that, historically, have repeatedly let us down. Just saying…

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  42. Thank you for all the information that you have shown us about the Templars. It is just recently that I have found that I descend from William Marshal who served with the Knights Templar in the Holy Land. Years later he became a Templar when on his death bed. He is supposedly interred in Temple Church in London. Everything I read about this man and his character amazes me. Thank you again for what you have exposed me to with your shows. I have them all on Amazon Prime.

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    1. Diane,

      Isn't it fun to delve into your own genealogy to learn about interesting people in your family tree. I also have Templars on my mother's side that is Scottish. We have a lot more coming about the Templar's activities in the "Western Lands" prior to contact. Stay tuned.

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  43. Just finished the book for the first time. Excellent job Diana and Scott! Thank you for all the great information and maps, I learned many new things and I am looking forward to future books. I am hoping the waterways lead this family through Illinois as I was raised there and have explored many places in the last 50 years. I believe there is still many unknowns with Shawnee. I have heard and read about large deposits of fluorite on the Ohio river east of the supposed Burrows Cave. Scott, I wondered if you have ever found any evidence, from the past, of Illinois Fluorite across the pond? Thanks again for all your hard work!

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    1. James,

      Fluorite is a beautiful mineral that lends itself to carving. Haven't heard of any Old World examples, but that doesn't mean they aren't out there.

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  44. Scott,

    Are you familiar with Sybil's Cave on the Hudson River, in Hoboken, NJ? It caught my eye on Google Earth. The entrance is at water level, and goes into a 90 ft. high mountain side with a mixture of buildings on top. It has a natural spring inside, and as opposed to the current entrance facade, I found an old photo of the previous facade which resembles the Talpiot Tomb, minus the chevron and circle. Additionally, there seems to be a long ago sealed up entrance near the current one. It's said to have been first owned, by a man named Stephens, in the early 1800's.

    Thanks,
    Mike

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  45. You might want to contact a linguist like Miles R. Jones, PhD. for an evaluation or recommendation regarding the actual text(s), translation and probable origins. On a different note, are you familiar with the legends of Norsemen on Isle Royale? I once knew an old guy who grew up on one of the homesteads there before it became a National Park. He claimed to have found amazing evidences all over the place as a youth.

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    1. That sounds like a great suggestion; we do plan to have other scholars look at the actual pages, and photos of actual pages we still have for the their analysis.

      I haven't heard about Norsemen on Isle Royale, but I'm open to the possibility. Wonder if the guy ever wrote anything down about what he saw?

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  46. In reference to the lead cross found on Oak Island, if you look at the original pictures of it when they first found it, they accidentally turned it over at the table. On the back of it, on the right arm of the cross are the numbers 5/9. probably a wrench of some kind.

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    1. Diana,

      One thing I can tell you is it has NO connection to the Templar's; complete fantasy.

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  47. I ordered a copy from Amazon a few days ago and it arrived yesterday. Spent most of the night reading it. Have to admit it is interesting and I will be curious to hear news about any archaeological finds that could be uncovered if the information in the journals is legit.

    Are there journal entries that have been omitted (not just redacted). There are some large gaps in time between journal entries. Just curious.

    TD

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    1. TD Bauer,

      Yes, there are are two journal entries that have been redacted but they are early on (1354 specifically) that contain detailed archaeological information that cannot be made public until properly vetted.

      Otherwise, the entries are as they were shared with us by Diana. It is important to remember as amazing as these entries are they cannot be fully accepted until the archaeological aspects are corroborated.

      We’ll see how that goes.

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  48. yes, I know there are lots of gaps in the entries as well, but they are the only ones that survived to be translated. There might have been a lot of reasons. Most knights didn't know how to read or write at all in Latin (Most knew French), so for Henry to have been taught to write was out of character for the time period. However, being taught by a cleric is most likely why he was taught Latin. He also probably had a lot of things to do and didn't make time to write entries except for things that were truly memorable. It's also possible that he kept another journal for estate business, charters, and such. This could have been just a personal journal.

    Also, many of the papers that survived were 'loose-leaf' and not bound into book form as we know it today. Some pages may have been lost over time. The ones that I translated are the only ones that remained. Later authors, John Sr and John Jr Weems wrote much more frequently than the older authors.

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  49. Imitating Dana Carvey and Kevin Leland as Hans and Franz.

    BUY IT NOW...REGRET IT LATER...YAH!

    Sorry, Scott. Popped into my head when, I read your response to TD. Not exactly a ringing endorsement. Judging by your words, you seem skeptical. Me too. Looking forward to more information about Sir Humphrey Dennison and the Newport Tower.

    Anthony Warren

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      We have done a lot of vetting and things have connected very nicely so far. However, the conclusive evidence has yet to come. I'm optimistic, but also realistic. We'll see how that part goes.

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  50. I'm a little wary but most certainly optimistic. Fascinating subject, intriguing discovery. I'm hopeful something new will come of it all that tips the scales.

    Looking forward to the next book and news of discoveries that were made from the material.

    Thanks to both Diana and Scott and all those involved. I'll be lurking here as usual for news.

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  51. So Scott, I am kinda new to blogging about this sort of stuff and I'm a huge fan and supporter of your work and what you do. I'm 39 years old and have always deep down known that a lot of the world's history we have been taught is wrong. I don't have any credentials as far as any of these subjects or fields, but have studied various history and artifacts and religions for the last 20 years on my own. More as a hobby with a lot of passion for the truth, but I have a question and hope you can respond. With all the work you have done on the Templars in America, through my own research and study. Do you believe that the faction of Templars that came to America (which I do believe they came after they were hunted down by the church.) Do you believe that they brought the true knowledge of our history outside of America to the natives when they got here and that is why the white man(those in power I'm referring too) tried to wipe the natives out, because the natives knew too much at that point? Hopefully You have a response or take on this question, and I am looking forward to your opinion on that matter. Thank you for everything you do and the truth, Logic that you help spread to the world. Also congrats on Xplorr. Can't wait to see what that will blossom into.

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    1. Unknown,

      You bring up a very good point, and yes, I do believe there was more the genocide committed against the indigenous people than just getting them out of the way to take their land. Certain religious (RCC) and political factions who committed these crimes knew all about Templars who came here and assimilated with the Natives who also knew then, and still know now, about the early Europeans who visited and those who stayed. By killing the indigenous people they cleared the way for land and, conveniently, got rid of the witnesses.

      Hutton and I have parted ways and are pursuing different ventures. I wish him the best and know he come up with something creative and historically relevant.

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  52. Mr. Wolter,

    Congrats, just heard of your expedition on Trvl channel. It is all abuzz on the competing skeptic blog.

    ** Many people enjoy Scott's shows. People get exposed to what's out there. Something may be completely true. Something might be insightful to get you on a path to find what is true. Something may be conjured up by someone who truly believes in it and just wants people to take notice and research the possibilities. **

    My question to you, “Where do your studies differ from the historical debate listed?”

    1. Phoenician mythology is real Greek mythology. It fully covers how an oversized Greek can go to Egypt, to breed, and create an individual that can emulate the Template of a god. Hint: 'Templar Cult'

    2. The Greek populations that went to Egypt then went to Rome & Carthage when released. The (mitochondrial Egyptians) who were black female-white male went to Rome. The (mitochondrial Greeks) who were white female-black male went to Carthage.

    3. The two mixed back and forth as needed, Asgaard was created when an equal ratio of god was created (Hellenistic). Romans seeing their inferiority to the Greek gods reborn rebelled with their superior numbers.

    4. The process continued in America by survivors of Punic Wars, with the offspring eventually returning to Europe as Scandinavians. With all things... a copy of a copy of a copy. An ongoing battle with the Hydra. One god per versus multi-headed Roman sects.

    5. There is a Norse Saga dedicated to a battle in Brazil. Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Odin's Den (L'Anse Aux Meadows), Roanoke Island, Cuba, Antilles Islands, Trinidad, Brazil. It was a long voyage, not a hop-skip-or jump. That was Easter Island. A king burned at sea. A queen returned to the son through the Midgaard Serpent. The Religion of Thor

    6. Mythology is the template, Sagas are the police actions that continue the mythology forward in a precise order.

    a. Greek-God names represent the families which topple each other in a precise order.
    b. Egyptian-God names represent the provinces which topple each other in a precise order.
    c. Roman-God names represent the countries which topple each other in a precise order.
    d. Norse-new gods in America (Mar) to represent the provinces which topple each other in a precise order.
    e. English-Round Table represents the same circle that follows a precise order.

    Not a single person on this planet is a Native American:

    You have the Greek/Roman Voyagers who discovered the continent.
    You have the Olmecs 1200 BC, who were brought over from Thrace.
    You have the Vikings/Phoenicians who brought them over.
    You have the Mayans who were brought over in 250 BC
    You have the Scottish Mariners who were the blending of the two
    You have the Aztecs who were brought over in 791 AD
    You have the Swedish Mariners who were the blending of the two
    You have the Toltecs who were brought over in 1325 AD
    You have the Incans who were brought over in 1438 AD
    You have the American Indians who mixed with Scottish priests just a few hundred years ago to exterminate their Anglo heritage.

    Biology is the only evidence that remains of years gone by, and it is conclusive. There was nothing here in America 3000 years ago but land that needed to be populated.

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  53. Plato’s Atlantis:

    1. Greece, prior to being named itself, was the only civilization in existence on this planet. Atlantis Legend.

    2. With the expansion of Greece, when it was named, the formation of competing provinces began. Greeks took on the task of creating people from those who were still evolving from the natural world.

    3. Greece fell... aka Atlantis fell, due to the hydra of Persian sects.

    4. Egypt became a location to restore the old republic, and they did. People were enslaved, they were bred, then they were released under the terms of religion. Pyramids-Scholars of the Mind, Templar Guard-of the body.

    5. Greece fell again... aka Egypt fell. The hydra of religious sects.

    6. Under occupational forces in Egypt. Plato told his students that the story of 'Atlantis' was an existing state, to restore the old republic, not the past historical state that had been around since the beginning of time. Scholars of the time estimated that it must have existed since 9000 BC by their calculations of evolution.

    7. Rome, prior to receiving the name, became New Greece.

    8. New Greece fell... aka Rome rose. Shrinking Greek populations (Viking-Mycennaean-Anglican types) vs the hydra of reborn thinner Greeks (Persian-Egyptian-Italian types) - 754 BC

    9. Plato explicitly said that the Atlantis found beyond the Pillars of Hercules (Rome & Carthage) would rebuild what was lost. Which mythological Atlantis then fell in the same manner as before, just a bit later.

    10. Mud is a delicate reference to those who remained in any territory that breeds. Individuals that rise above the bar move to a new location, leaving those who are considered to be mud to tend to their vices. All kinds of biblical references can be entered here... Sodom, Gommorah... bla, bla

    11. Plato's work offers blatant Insight to stoke an individual to think about everything and anything. My guess would be he is the father of the Templar Order. Everything he spoke of could be reduced to numbers and the expansion thereof. The Templar continue to teach in order to continue the mythological template.

    My question to you? The question of American Indian rights was addressed, a fictitious scenario was offered:

    ** I grew up in America believing I lived in a democracy. I owned land and lived my own life. As I reached old age, the mafia came to my house and said give us our land back we want it. We put you here, it was always ours, we own the courts, we just let you use the land until our kids were old enough to take it back from you. **

    - If the Indians have a claim to the land, I want my share.
    - If the mafia has a claim, I guess the Indian chiefs will get their land.
    - If the mafia has to give the land to those who put them here, then, then the Anglo-Americans own everything.

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  54. I suspect a few of these negative comments are from none other than St.Clair, the trash of all trash. Fact or Fiction it makes a good story, and the truth will prevail.

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    1. Anonymous,

      I would be more careful about your speculation as to who you think might be making certain comments. In fact, it's hypocritical of you to try and guess who is posting without a name attached to the commentary when you're guilty of the same.

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